Yes, it is. You said you had to work for races. because you have done the work. They must to do work. Your grand parents are doing the same thing. They making you work before you can drive. Same thing.
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No, it is not.
A GOOD analogy would be this:
Medical knowledge is learned through the years. A student goes through medical school and earns a degree and becomes a doctor.
Another student comes along a couple years later and uses the previous student as his example and says âHey, that guy already learned it, but thatâs old knowledge now. Can you just give me a degree since he already learned it?â
The doctor did the work. The second guy did not, and doesnât deserve a degree, just because itâs old knowledge.
Neither do you in this case.
I have 99 exalted reps and have plenty of experience with this angle of the game. And I can absolutely say you are being completely dishonest about there not being time-gates. The allied races ARE time-gated because you donât have the ability to grind them out over a weekend, for example. You are restricted to doing a few short dailies which award 50-75 rep each and are subject to RNG from mission tables, another time-gate. Maybe youâll get lucky and get the emissary cache, another time-gate.
You also have selective memory because as I recall, a huge number of players switched to playing humans in PvP because of the EMFH racial. More proof that races are more than just âcosmeticâ.
Are you gonna keep digging that hole?
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And youâre being dishonest about the time gates, because all the reps for the ARs are from previous content. You donât get to call something âtime-gatedâ for a reward that doesnât exist yet.
Tell me one rep that was earned AFTER an AR was released that is needed to unlock that new AR.
Iâll wait (hint, there isnât one).
Your post is completely nonsensical.
If you canât grind out all the rep to exalted WHENEVER you choose to, especially if youâre a new player, the rep/race is time-gated. Itâs irrelevant if YOU personally already played the previous expansion. You didnât get all the rep for LF draenei in one weekend. Same thing with Zandalari trolls from BFA, etc.
Also, you still have to grind out the time-gated rep from Legion. They arenât merely given to you, so what were you trying to say again? If you do the quest lines for the races, you donât magically get exalted. You get, at best, honored. And then the rest of the rep is, guess whatâŠtime-gated.
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Interesting. I had to wait nine or ten years before I could play those races. And I had to have a max level character and all the rep as well. A new player can easily get them in less than a year. Sounds like they got a deal to me.
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Sorry, but no. Those arenât time gated for OLD players. That means they have to spend time that weâve already spent. Those two things are not the same.
Making you finish a grind to a certain rep to get into a new raid that just launced or finish an entire zone for an attunement for that same raid is an example of âtime gatingâ.
Making someone go back and do old content they would have already done if they had been playing the game all along is NOT âtime gatingâ.
Youâre equating two unequal things.
THAT is nonsensical.
New players can also take their boosted character and kill Arthas in a few globals. I bet some people wish they could have done that in 3.3.
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You could make the grinds actually fun you know? The turtleâs world quests are atrocious
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Yeah man I remember when I wanted to become a pilot, the guys at the airport told me to clean toilets everydayâŠ
Oh wait that was pathfinder.
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we play games to escape real life not deal with more realistic bullcrap
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Blizzard has to do something to keep people playing since the game play is less then stellar on BFA.
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You must have a completely different understanding of âtime-gatedâ than I do, or you are just being deliberately obtuse.
Whether the player is new or old is completely irrelevant. Were you able to grind out the entire reputation in one week or even one weekend if you wanted to? No? Then guess what, that rep is time-gated. You canât go to Argus and spend all afternoon killing mobs for that sweet exalted rep. Blizzard restricts the amount of rep you can earn daily. You donât set the pace - they do.
And youâre wrong about two of the allied races - lightforged draenei and the void elves. You werenât able to grind out the reps prior to Patch 7.3 âShadows of Argusâ releasing. Donât you remember how the forums were in uproar back in Legion, how Alliance players felt that there was some Horde bias present because they could get their Highmountain Tauren sooner than they could get the 7.3 Alliance allied races?
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I donât understand the complaints. I mean, for one, this video game really doesnât cost that much money for what you are given. Literally a second life for some of you and hours upon hours of gameplay. Secondly, isnât earning stuff enjoyable? It makes it seem more important and that way you donât just rushrushrush and then twiddle your thumbs as you wait for the next thing to become available. I for one do not mind at all.
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Ion? Is that you?
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Good thing the AR didnât come out until 7.3.5 which was over 4 months later. Even if we go by the Blizzcon reveal that is still 3 months to grind out the rep with the knowledge it is required.
Why is it that peopleâs first defense of rep grinds is always comparing it to real, actual work?
Doesnât that undermine your entire argument from the word âgoâ? The whole problem with this kind of content is that itâs meaningless busywork - meaningless busywork that we pay for the privelege of doing. Weâre not building skills, or relationships, just making a number on a meter go up by completing trivial tasks.
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If you think about it, this entire game is just âwatching a meter go upâ.
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Irrelevant. The rep is still time-gated since Blizzard set the pace at which you can obtain the exalted rep. Players canât slap on a tabard and run multiple dungeons to rake in that rep. They canât spend an afternoon killing a bunch of mobs to, you know, grind that rep.
I am against time-gated reputation requirements for new races. Blizzard should have stuck with what worked for new races from TBC - MoP. It made lots of players happy.
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Youâre not totally wrong, though other activities in the game at least give you something interesting to do while you drive that meter.
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