I am confused ? Tank question

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Excellent Info, So bottom line for Naxx etc later, it need that specific build class and roles to pull it off ?

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Warrior isnā€™t the only way, but if thatā€™s what you wish to believe thatā€™s all you. I mean I guess if we want to act like we learned nothing from theorycrafting and private servers I can agree with you. Sure, deny all private server data as misinformation though.

And yes, if youā€™re super hardcore itā€™s warrior tank only. However, I think we can almost count on our fingers how many guilds are going to be this insane on each server.

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according to a lot of the private server guys dps warriors actually make really good end game tanks. The idea is that dps tanks can hold agro better and do more damage than prot tanks. They even will use pots to help make up for the missing block rate and defence from not using shields.

If you want to know more there is a youtuber called scarmtank if who specialize in warrior and druid tanking in classic. I highly recommend his videos on the current theorycrafting on tanking because he has a lot of good information to share.

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See so much of an optimal build/viable tank class/spec depends on your guild. If you are honestly interested in tanking and not holding your guild back you would want to spec for a higher threat build. If Pservers are any indication my understanding is that the highest threat build is PROT/ARMS just for impales bonus damage with yellows. Then once geared people with DW tank. Buffed/geared tank hits almost 14k HP.

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I just always thought back then we needed specific builds class to clear anything, so this does come as a eye opener.

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Another good addition. warcrafttavern com/guides/taladrils-treatise-on-druid-tanking-in-vanilla/#druidvswarriortanks

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There are specific builds that do things better. However, as warriors have proven over time you donā€™t have to spec straight prot isnā€™t required. Ferals often run a feral-resto build that allows you to tank and heal in raids with gear swaps. Weā€™ve come quite far from the straight pigeon holing of Vanilla. And for most raiders you wonā€™t be held to the strict specs as youā€™re probably going to be full pre-raid BiS before raiding unlike most ā€œcutting edgeā€ guilds trying to get server first.

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We will also be able to count on our fingers how many guilds there will be playing Classic that have a druid as a MT. Not saying itā€™s impossible(you know if you actually read my post) It will just heavily depend on your situation.

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Hmm I kind like this, its like a dual spec. Providing I can dps and tank as arms warrior with the right gear sets etc.

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If you are in a casual guild arms DPS will suffice.

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You essentially need high armor and good threat and youā€™ll do fine in majority of the dungeons.

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Iā€™ll give you an example of a talent build Iā€™m going to try early on when Iā€™m going to want to do a bit of everything - solo farm, do 5 man dungeons, some raiding as a dps or tank, and PvP, and not go totally broke while respeccing:

classicdb.ch/?talent#LMGxdAio0zVZxbto

For an Orc this works really well. You have 40% stun resistance, the two, debatably most important Prot talents, Imp Shield Block & Last Stand, and everything that makes Arms PvP great, except for Enrage (which, admittedly, is huge, I know). But Last Stand, Iron WIll and Imp Bloodrage are also very useful for PvP so itā€™s an interesting tradeoff.

Thereā€™s a lot of neat stuff you can do with the Fury tree as well, if you go Fury / Prot. As someone mentioned above, check out Skarmā€™s videos.

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Let me add your MT will be a warrior. There are specific fights where warrior CDs or other abilities are just required. A druid cannot tank every single fight in Vanilla. They can main tank many more than we used to think though. Iā€™m going to be a 3rd MT behind 2 warriors. However, my goal is to clear the entirety of Vanilla content not prove Iā€™m the top MT. I want to be the most flexible druid possible. Iā€™ve never healed except on Archimonde in BC so itā€™ll be a change. Going to be insane farming consumes and gear.

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I did run a few dungeons back then with 2 players that was teaching me the game, and they helped tank with their pets, warlock and hunter.

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And if you read my postsā€¦ :grinning:

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DPS is arguably better for tanking earlier dungeons, as you have more threat talents right away.

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Yeah I remembered taunts held most agro back then, then once wotlk hit etc, tanks would be 1-2 top dps while tanking .lol during van/tbc tanks dps was usually low.

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Yes, very true. I recall tanking all the 5 mans as Arms with my trusty Arcanite Reaper. As long as you have a competent healer, and you are competent, all is good in the world.

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I Thank you guys so much for clearing this for me, at first I thought it was koy to the fact our builds didnā€™t matter much from what I picturedā€¦ but on the other hand I like the flexibility.

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Taunt forces a target to attack you, but doesnā€™t generate additional threat. The DPS talents from Arms and Fury is what helps you generate threat.

Tanks in general did a lot of damage in dungeons in Wrath as they could AoE and had free AP from taking damage.

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