oh i forgot ES had lone wolf built in mb
I’ve never said that it didn’t need a nerf, but dividing damage by 3 was way too much.
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dividing it by 3 and making it aoe
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Most hunters don’t have an issue with the pet nerf, that is justified in my eyes. It’s getting nerfed with no real compensation. The issue here is that Chimera Shot is in the same rune slot as BM so those Hunters don’t gain anything, it’s just a massive loss for them.
I feel like they need to move Kill command and Beast Mastery with one another. Then make the kill command CD lower so it’s worth taking for BM Hunters as right now it’s like 100 extra damage every min. Maybe lower now that the pets will do less damage.
Then maybe replace Cobra Strikes with a rune that increases the damage of Serpent Sting, buff Lone Wolf and Serpent Spread or Sniper Training so they compare to the now moved Beast Mastery rune so non BM Hunters that like doing damage themselves have more options.
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They need to move kill command to gloves and change it to the retail version. Make it share a cd with arcane shot idc.
Then move lion to legs. Both other leg runes are useless anyway.
And finally move beast mastery to chest and rework it into something that requires player input to enhance pet dmg or fuse it with the cobra thing.
Bam hunter fixed.
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You did though. Chimera and ES still might not be worth it but if anything, they should be trying to make the runes more appealing.
If hunters were compensated for the pet nerf with more damage in other ways…they may have we’ll just not nerfed the pets.
Give it a week to r logs to collect data. Be willing to bet hunter remain in the top 3. You’ll be fine.
any good pre made will insta kill your pets, keeping them alive isn’t always the easiest which is a good thing. This will hurt for PVE PvP MM is great, and wind serpent is alright even without the rune tbh. Hunters are used to and waiting for the nerfs by now.
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2 things
1: Beastal wrath is a thing next phase
2: Wind serpents can still solo bfd geared people in pvp.
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I don’t see the problem tbh, just play marksman now? time to push some buttons instead of letting the pet doing most of the work. MM was already competitive, now it’s defininitely a top spec.
They just changed the meta 
Yep…you guys are actually clueless and complains over nothing.
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To make lone wolf viable it will need to increase hunter damage by about 30%, increase all hunter stats by 20%, and give new abilities to maintain distance from a target. It would need a massive overhaul to be viable.
I just 1v2’d hunters with wind serpents and ended the battle with 100% HP. I love this. Nerf hunters more. They have been the best source of easy honor in SoD 
Uhhh no? I’ve stated many times over a few weeks I wanted them to move the damage from the pet to the hunter. The problem is they did not do a good job doing that, the change is too little, it’s only another nerf.
master channeler is the next nerf imo
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Warriors and rogues are doing lvl 60 pre raid bis lvls if dps.
Nerf when? Oh wait, they will nerf hunters to fix that problem…
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I did 211 DPS as MM last week on Sarevess. Hunters will be fine, if not better at Raid DPS than they were before.
Enough crying. It’s time to actually play your character.
So are hunters…?
Warriors and rogues are doing like… 15% more damage than hunters right now–and that’s WITH WINDFURY.
Get a grip bro. Without Windfury Hunters are by far the highest DPS class by a mile.
Hunters max dps uses windfury as well. Its called melee weaving. Which includes fishing for windfury procs with wingclip. And considering the hunter melees at least every 6 seconds…
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Still not comparable at all.
They may get a few wf procs here and there, but it’s nothing compared to a melee class.
You take WF out of the equation and hunters are beating the crap out of warriors and rogues.
Your right, rogues and warriors will scale infinitely better as levels and gear rise. Thats the real difference.
No, they arent.
Look at percentage of wf and remove it from logs, warriors and rogues still winning. Not by as much, but still beat hunters at top play.
They added pet scaling to the game. This is what made hunters OP in TBC. I’d bet my money that hunters continue to remain a top tier class without windfury and continue to outperform melee without it.