Hunters - TONE THEM DOWN

Wow would you look at that! BM being outperformed greatly by MM in every single category. Who could have possibly predicted this (and who here was completely wrong)?

Waiting for you to let me know, any time now. Having a higher amount of players playing a spec does not necessarily mean it is better

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-season-2-dps-rankings-special-edition-first-days-of-liberation-of-375674

I was hit with a 5.5 million aim shot two nights ago. Rapid fire into aim shot. Rapid fire got me down to a little over 50% in .5 sec and then aim shot deleted the rest.

I heard they are going to fix it though. Something about forgetting to add back the PvP modifier taken out during the ptr.

Only on a talent that increases crit damage while trueshot is up.

Yes unnerring got its .5 PvP mod back and also tensile bowstring got nerfed. Bowstring is the talent that makes streamline more effective in ts. So aimed shot will not be coming out quite so fast during burst. Improved streamline also already has a .5 PvP mod.

Wait till bm gets tier :slight_smile:

You also continue to link wowhead articles without understand them it is honestly hilarious

BM tier is a dps loss what are you talking about

Compared to what? U rocking old 4 set then? Tier does not always give the same % increases in dmg across seasons

I don’t understand why I’m getting linked prepatch and first week logs like the mean something when people are balanced around max gear

Oh wait y’all were talking about a pve thing never mind.

Did you read what was in the wowhead article? 4pc effects more than just BM hunters…

Yeah and I don’t see them doing tank dmg (your initial argument)

That was last patch

Even though I don’t like fighting a good MM, I’m not really in favor of nerfing hunters, as it’s practically the only class that puts mages in check, nowadays I see a lot of ā€œaverageā€ hunters losing to ā€œbadā€ mages, something I’ve never seen before…

2 piece on BM is pretty garbage, a free Barbed shot on a target that probably already has a barbed shot bleeds on them? Useless…now the 4 set is def good.

But yea with every BM playing Packleader there will be zero times you don’t have 3 stacks of Frenzy from applying Barbed shot 3 times. Packleader basically gives infinite Barbed shots. The 2 set would have been decent before they nerfed it from 200% effectiveness bleed to a 100% effectiveness. Basically it’s just a random refresh on Barbed shot bleed now.

The pve value to 2pc is from the cdr on BW given by the free barbed shots. You get 1proc per minute but it also procs every time you enter BW. However the problem is that due to pve changes, the set now fires a 50% effective barbed shot in pvp which overrides your current barbed shot. It used to be a 200% effective barbed shot in pve but this doesn’t jive with the APM priority because you’re just going to override that with a 100% barbed anyway. So they buffed damage and nerfed the 2pc but did not change its pvp modifier, so now you kinda have a worse problem in pvp.

Could you potentially get around this by targeting a non kill target before popping BW?

Yeah but you don’t know when the random ones are going to proc

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