I disagree. There are some class specs that are, unfortunately, simply more vital and more threatening in competitive PvP than others, just like PvE. The game’s not perfectly balanced, and warriors definitely lucked out I’ll admit. That’s the way it is though. The mortal strike debuff is debatably the most broken thing in all of Vanilla PvP.
Give me a top tier WSG comp that takes an 2 enhance over 2 MS warriors and wins lol. That’s an extreme example but it should get the point across. Ultimately though I agree, most people are here to have fun, but when we’re splitting hairs over PvP weapons, it’s important to bring this up because it matters to enough people that it’s worth talking about.
Yeah totally. People who are inactive can f right off with getting raid gear imo.
Ele shammys are extremely dangerous, ret pallys can drop you in 1 global if hes been soaking a rogues crits, enhance shammys arnt warrior replacements but they are viable and can drop a warrior in a global with good rng and they bring other useful utility. Warriors are only good if followed by a pocket healer, in ab you will want more classes that can hold there own to guard nodes.
So what?
There are literally a billion warriors.
It has already been established that warriors are the absolute definition of loot goblins in classic. If you as a warrior are going to pitch a fit and gquit over loot-----See ya!!
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I agree, shamans have lots of utility. But they can still bring that same utility with a more competitive spec (resto or ele in fringe cases). My argument is, basically, if all else is the same, in an organized group, would you take enhance / ret over MS warrior? It’s the same as, would you take a boomie over a frost mage?
By the same token, if all else is the same, would you give a hunter askhandi for pvp over a warrior for pvp (who doesnt have R14 or BRE obviously).
I know the thread topic is PvE focused but we’re talking about PvP lolz for the moment I guess. A lot of the above many people might consider very controversial and “classist”, etc. but I don’t expect everyone to get it.
If you already had a warrior or 2 to put pressure. I wouldn’t mind an enchance or ele controlling the field purging and dropping healers.
Yes mages are op but depending on play style druids can offer excellent control and they can sustain themselves for a long time, i guess it would depend on team play style and if they are guarding or attacking.
If I was in a consistent premade with a warrior guildie and they didn’t have a comparable weapon, yes.
But if we were doing our own thing with pvp no, who can judge whos going you utilize it better if it’s bis for both, the warrior could quit playing or reroll, same goes for the hunter, there shouldn’t be priority for personal use items.
Just because someone rolls a certain class, doesn’t mean they should be given more priority over bis items then others just because they are considered by someone to be better for 1 class then the other, bis is bis. The exception to this is if it will make all of the raiders life easier by prioritizing the MT or healers for example.
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You can feel free to think that. The rest of us in normal guilds will continue to prioritize gear to non meme specs. Sorry boomkin enhance shammy whatever. Your not viable in pve or PvP.
You rolled it you wanna play it but the 39 people carrying you in raid don’t need to gear you.
Hunters get way more pve bis gear in both MC and in BWL then dps warriors. Way. More. Gear.
Normal raids have way more dps warriors then hunters.
Most guilds will prio this to pvp warriors over everyone else.
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2H Fury is a thing and is far greater dps than a hunter 50-150 dps - especially on anything cleave.
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If gear going to a certain spec is the defining factor to killing a boss there are VERY big problems at hand.
You don’t know what viable means.
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Is it 50-150dps more then 1h fury would be? Also take into account he fact that alliance doesn’t get WF.
Stupid question.
It has attack power on it. Hunters want attack power.
Case closed.
Hunters melee weaving?!
Woah stop the presses! Give them equal priority to warriors on two handers even though BoE blues work for the hunters.
Maybe warriors should be given a chance at the best bows etc, since they can range weave before going back into melee range! Why that’s another 50-150 dps!
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All this pvp talk is irrelevant anyway. Lemme splain something, and I am saying this as someone who raids as a war primarily. Ahskandi with agi chant is bis for raiding hunters. It gets even better when you factor in that the best of the best pve hunters actively melee weave and it can account for 25% of their damage. For warriors, this is strictly a pvp item. No warriors arms dps, and if they do they’re considered meme spec not raid spec. With all that said, when you are raid progressing, and raid loot drops, RAID BIS GETS PRIORITY, not pvp bis. So this is a hunter item first if you’re a raiding guild. And yes, this is coming from a war. I wouldn’t take this from a hunter if my main goal is pve guild progression. If a war wants, just wait til the 2 or 3 hunters get it, or just put a bwl and open roll
Lul a good hunter melee weaving well in bwl can easily pull 900+ dps…In a halfway casual guild. I don’t see many arms wars doing that.
Who brings an arms warr to a raid? I said 2h fury warr.
Hunters claiming they’ll use Ash for melee weaving is just a scam they tell officers to try to justify getting it in order to further their collective mission of griefing warriors out of 2 handers. 
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2h fury is legit for both horde and alliance. human wars have 305 swordskill, ashkandy is a GOOD weapon for 2h fury human warriors. that way theres more 1hders for rogues and other warriors.
Ashkandy should never go to a hunter unless its getting sharded.