Hunters? hunter tanks perhaps?

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

Screech only damages the primary target. It just puts a debuff on the other targets. Pretty much anything will pull aggro off that.

Thunderstomp would be a decent aoe threat ability for pets. But it’s got a long cooldown, and won’t be available in the 25 bracket.

[Graou-terokkar]

Mmh I might be wrong but if I remember correctly it also generates threat? Last time I played with screech was 18 years ago tbh.

Gorilladin was a WotLK prepatch thing with low thunderstomp cd, didn’t last long unfortunately.

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

I’ve been using a bat in Classic and Hardcore. It’s complete garbage at aoe threat.

[Anddimgone-kiljaeden]

@Everyone-proudmoore

I think BM should be the melee tree and survival should be the spell damage trap tree.

I insanely agree!!! i have so wanted a spell dmg hunter to be some sort of thing. with stings n fire shots n traps! thats all magic damage!

[Everyone-proudmoore]

Yeah it seems cool but I sadly learned recently that traps don’t scale to sp just serpent sting and arcane shot. I think it would be kind of interesting, but it would have to be something so they’re not wearing cloth sp damage, so agi, ap or int being converted to sp. Survival is a weird tree for sure as it is. I think this is maybe my most recent thoughts on survival/bm direction

Class changes you’d like to see

I would like to see runes making BM hunter become the melee hunter without favoring 2h or dual wield over the other. Just damage through pet synergy, calling beasts and you and your pet striking together or in combination Mongoose bite to proc after your pet dodges or after someone dodge’s the attack of your hunter’s mark. Raptor strike/Mongoose bite attacking with both weapons when dual wielding. A wwe hunter/pet combo attack - Only usable when hunter is within melee range of target, your pet…

[Gretafauci-whitemane]

Cool. Then give them the damage of an SoD mage since they would have 2 roles. But also make their new role pretty crappy.

[Anddimgone-kiljaeden]

@Laneria-atiesh

So honestly i could see Bm tanking, since the beast master rune does buff your hunter pet as well as making growl become a taunt that locks the target of iot on the pet for three seconds. Though i think they could even make a full hunter tank via survival too since you have both hp an parry buffing talents that would help, but alongside that you have deterrence that buffs dodge an parry as a tanking cd, than you also have counter attack as well as mongoose strike that need you to dodge or parry an attack to use it which as a tank would fit well. Using survival as a secondary tanking spec if you choose the right rune an talents would feel better as you can directly control positioning of the boss/mobs you are tanking, over having to micro-manage a tanking pet, though in the same way a hunter pet could off tank adds in a fight too as a utility.

yessss now youre getting it!!!

[Yukari-angerforge]

Spell damage? There is no world in which that would ever be viable. Just makes me think of people stacking arcane damage which is absolutely terrible.

[Everyone-proudmoore]

Yeah ive changed my opinion about this after. Survival should be melee and ranged. Polearm, traps, bombs, poisons, cc like nets, throwing weapons like polearm/spear throw and chakrams, and using a few ranged abilities like how rogues use quick draw. Arcane shot is just a weird outlier.
Oh and camouflage. Thats how i envision the survival class fantasy. Survival talents are terrible for melee besides the first dozen points or so. At least you can create something from BM by using synergy

[Yukari-angerforge]

That’s what I thought we were getting. There’s a vanilla plus pr*vate server that already does it called Duskhaven, they should have just copied from them.