Name a single good Horde racial in PvP.
If youâre such a hardcore arena player name three of their songs, hm.
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WTS doesnât even get good until ICC, troll harder next time
WTB that thing youâre selling
Wrong Human racial is OP in P1.
Blood Elf - Arcane Torrent: An 8 yard AoE silence.
Tauren - War Stomp: An 8 yard AoE stun.
Troll - Berserking: a 10 second 20% haste buff .
Orc - Blood Fury: a scaling attack/spellpower buff.
Orc - Command: 5% increased pet damage.
Orc - Hardiness: 15% reduction to stuns
Undead - Will of the Forsaken: Removes any fear, charm or sleep effect
You asked for 1, I gave you 7.
Nerfed.
Useless.
Useless, only good in PvE.
Has some uses, but not as good as a whole trinket.
Meh, it can be used in some situations but provides not as much as a whole trinket.
Lmao blood elf players.
Nerfed as well, itâs not good anymore.
Hereâs 1: Human Racial
Dark Moon Card Greatness = 300 of a stat which is already massive buff + any other one of the OP trinkets in P1 that can raise SP or Haste or AP to compound onto that.
Nothing you listed comes close, try again.
Doesnât matter if itâs nerfed, itâs still strong.
Say that to a hunter pet, warlocks demons and DKâs ghouls/gargoyle.
It gives ~320 attack/spellpower at level 80, how is that not good in PvP? It also doesnât trigger a trinket CD.
20% haste is 655.8 haste rating, how is that not as good as a trinket?
War Stomp is use as an interrupt, it can be used to stop a heal from going out winning you the match.
Nice dismissal
And yet it can stack with other stun reductions making the racial better.
You asked for good racials and the ones I listed are all good, sure theyâre not as good as WtS but you wasnât asking for something as good as WtS all you asked for were good racials.
Dude 5% is nothing compared to a trinket buff, Human DKs 
on Horde DKs in arena.
Cause it lasts a small amount of time same as troll racial, you can just CC them and itâll disappear. A trinket bonus lasts longer and has a passive that stays the whole fight, you canât compare those two.
A single War Stomp wonât determine anything, yeah itâll stop a heal or w/e but itâs just a nice fluff ability and not as useful as a full on DPS trinket that increases you damage by double for a duration of a whole match. Thatâll determine a win more.
Oh come on, even as a Horde player you have to admit blood elfs are the most meme race in the game. Idk anyone thatâs actually good at the game that rolls belf.
Like what lmao? This isnât Retail with Sephuz or other major CC reductions, Orc is not relevant at all in the PvP ladder.
You really didnt play back in the day did you lol.
It doesnt need to be changed, most knew what to expect going in.
I like how you ignoredâŚ
So how can people claim Wrath PvP is good? This directly undermines any kind of competitiveness it has lol
I responded to it:
L2Read.
you do know that melee have like 6k AP right? the trinket isnât helping that much. Get some resilience
If you donât think 300 STR + 1k AP and 3% Crit on a trinket is OP then idk what to tell you, you can even pair with Grim Toll for 15% ArP which would smash kids if you wore ArP off pieces which is BiS for warriors.
Thereâs a reason why everyone goes human.
Wow the better pvpers went ally for WOTLK⌠who would have guessed.
The better pvpers went horde in TBC.
Who cares. get over it.
I mean I do when people are talking about Wrath being a good PvP scene, how can people call it good when itâs this unbalanced.
This just in, WoW classic PvP is unbalanced! I AM SHOCKED TO READ THIS.
Alert the press!
You want balance? Retail is that way 
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Just waiting for the 25th bro, DF Pre-Patch bout to be crazy.
You asked for good racials, I told you what they are and you dismiss it saying itâs not as good as WtS when thatâs not what you asked for. Is WtS strong? yes very much so but just because humans have a very strong racial doesnât mean they have an unfair advantage. It would if itâs 1v1 but it isnât, you are being dismissive and inflamatory with pretty much all your posts and Iâm just tired of you trolling. Iâm just gonna save any hassle of youâre anticipation of you staring at my icon in the bottom left of this thread and ignore you.
You clearly donât want a discussion you simply want to go back and forth never changing your veiw and make people agitated. It was like that in the previous post where you claimed that I was either being lied to by my guildie that got multiple characters to 80 even though he has a job and a family and I can hear his daughter in the background when I raid with him. Or that I was lying to you which I have no reason to.
Youâre not looking for anything other than discourse so why should I participate in your threads anymore. I was having fun responding to your posts and I guess Iâll respond again when you change your character for whatever reason but donât bother responding to this post because youâll be talking to a wall.
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Enjoy, because literally nobody here cares.
DF is going to be a massive flop. Enjoy that dog expansion lol.
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