Humans don't belong in fantasy games

Well that and the High Republic and Obi-Wan TV Show (It breaks too much.).

It doesn’t, people just don’t know the canon and have this weird fascination with legend material that hasn’t been canon for years now, nor ever was in fact.

A Fantasy that doesn’t have Humans in General isn’t a Fantasy.

This is why Dark Crystal is the Goat

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I am absolutely LOATHED to say it . . . but this holds water, fel a prime example is Baldur’s Gate 3.

When Larion ran the numbers on customization (race selection, class, skin tone, hair color / style, ect) they came up with this

This is by far one of the most basic lookin mother hubbers I’ve seen and is generic as all get out (like that’s not even the default human appearance so you can’t attribute it to people just skipping character customization) but the reasoning for this peak of generic early 2000s fantasy rpg box cover character comes about when you search for the reasons as to why . . . a lot of people either want to just “be themselves in a fantasy setting / with magic powers / an idealized version of themselves” or actually WANT to be generic, either because they prefer a “simple background” (implying only humans can have a simple background) or as kind of a meme (generic nobody kills the big bad world destroyer).

In looking into this and other similar things (like why humans are the most picked race in dragon age and such) it really boils down to either self inserts or humans being easy to identify with (we are humans in real life so naturally humans “ground things”)

Granted I myself never felt this way, always rolling an elf or dwarf in any fantasy setting I entered, but that from what I’ve gathered is the exception not the rule . . . yea it’s a boring answer but in the end it is THE answer.

Sorry for the wall of text answer but this IS something I’ve wondered about / looked into.

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Summary: “Most people are disappointingly basic.”

“huehuehue he look like me.”

I see it. Wish I didn’t, but I do.

I mean, to each their own honestly . . . come to think of it a Reddit post on the BG3 thing summed it up rather bluntly as to why some folk pic humans over elves, dwarves, ect.

“People want Legolas and Gimli as friends, not to BE Legolas or Gimli.”

It really does boil down to that and while despite the fact it shouldn’t is upsetting to me it’s just how most folk are, and that’s ok.

You also really can’t rule out the possibly of people literally skipping the character customization . . . least I think that’s the most common thing with single player TES games hence why nords are the most often picked in Skyrim (not sure if imperials are the most common pick in Oblivion and Dunmer in Morrowind).

I don’t know of a single fantasy game that DOESN’T involve humans.

Strange take since it’s not even common.

I would rather be Legolas or Gimli, what kinda boring mf would turn that down

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Disagree.

Also your citation of LotR seems odd.

  • The central protagonist of both the LotR and the Hobbit is a hobbit. Frodo and Bilbo Baggins.

  • Even Gandalf is a Maiar. The Maiar as I recall were created by Eru Illuvatar

  • There are undoubtedly more humans, but the central ones we see in the Fellowship of the Ring are Boromir and Aragorn.

Or take the Witcher novels/games.

  • Humans are rather prominent, especially in the game. But they all kind of take a backseat to the likes of Geralt who is a mutant. Humans are portrayed not particularly being good but not being particularly bad either. The humans in the Witcher universe are capable of both. It’s Geralt’s mutation that makes him able to relate to the discrimination of non humans i.e. dwarves, gnomes, elves, etc. Because he himself isn’t “human”.

But if we look at WoW? Humans finally are a bit more varied. I am not just talking about skin color either. I am talking about the Kul Tirans who physically differ from say a Stormwind human. But also in terms of their culture. Kul Tirans are a seafaring people and it’s displayed in a way that your typical “Stormwind, etc.” humans aren’t.

yes they do

othello is 100% better with a tauren as othello

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Your opinion sucks bro

Happy trolling

Given my research, a LOT of mother hubbers would . . .

Books get rejected for lots of reasons. If you wrote a 600 page novel that’s a reason right there why it could have been rejected. TLDR.

Then there’s the quality of writing itself, what types of books were selling at that time and a ton of other issues.

Human beaks don’t belong anywhere!

Where are you seeing human beaks?

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We need a MLP G4 MMO, no humans there.

:panda_face:

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With all due respect . . . no.

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