Human Shamans & Druids

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This is stupid, human shamans and druids. Now the strongest lore druids and shamans will be humans. All Druid and shaman plot will be handled by humans.

How can a human even be as civilized and be a shaman?(Goblin too) is rise of the horde not canon? It showed who shamans are how they live.. shamans wouldn’t live in luxury or in a human like life style we see in game.

Blizzard just ruins things that made wow great. Where is the racial identity and uniqueness?

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Listen I am not saying the strongest druid is a human, but what i am trying to say is. Almost in every playable human class, human get an important role and get strong representative in them. Look at the legion class halls for example.

Examples
Have strongest or most important characters in those classes
Warrior: Varian
Mage: Jaina, Kadghar, Rohnin
Priest: Andiun(since he was needed to rez Calia)
Pally: Turlyon
DK: Darion, Arthas, Bolvar

Have strong footprint
Rogue: Shaw, tethys(hard to tell who is strong, but rogue class hall was human central)
Warlock: Kanrethad, Kira(other then gul'dan i do not know who is strong)

Now that leaves what hunters and monks, no other race are that central across that many classes. other races are pivotal to on one or 2 classes. Do you guys kind of see what I mean there?
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11/03/2018 12:00 PMPosted by Nekkar
This is stupid, human shamans and druids. Now the strongest lore druids and shamans will be humans. All Druid and shaman plot will be handled by humans.

How can a human even be as civilized and be a shaman?(Goblin too) is rise of the horde not canon? It showed who shamans are how they live.. shamans wouldn’t live in luxury or in a human like life style we see in game.

Blizzard just ruins things that made wow great. Where is the racial identity and uniqueness?


Hi, Dwarves have had shamans for a while, so have Draenei, both of these are civilized peoples. It showed that shaman culture in ORC society was about spartan living. That does not mean that other cultures connection to the elements is better or worse, just different.
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Not to mention goblins, who approach the spirits the same way the approach more or less everything.
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If having a class automatically means a human will dominate it? then why is:

The best warlock an orc?(Gul'dan)
The best hunter an elf?(pick your preferred Windrunner)
The best monk a pandaren?(Chen)
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11/03/2018 12:00 PMPosted by Nekkar
Now the strongest lore druids and shamans will be humans.
This seems hyperbolic. There is no druid on azeroth more powerful than malfurion. I doubt there's a shaman who can outshaman Thrall when he's not self deprecating.
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11/03/2018 12:15 PMPosted by Treng
11/03/2018 12:00 PMPosted by Nekkar
Now the strongest lore druids and shamans will be humans.
This seems hyperbolic. There is no druid on azeroth more powerful than malfurion. I doubt there's a shaman who can outshaman Thrall when he's not self deprecating.


And that's when we swoop in with a new shaman and druid character!

Ah-ha! Nobody expects human potential!
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11/03/2018 12:04 PMPosted by Saiphas
11/03/2018 12:00 PMPosted by Nekkar
This is stupid, human shamans and druids. Now the strongest lore druids and shamans will be humans. All Druid and shaman plot will be handled by humans.

How can a human even be as civilized and be a shaman?(Goblin too) is rise of the horde not canon? It showed who shamans are how they live.. shamans wouldn’t live in luxury or in a human like life style we see in game.

Blizzard just ruins things that made wow great. Where is the racial identity and uniqueness?


Hi, Dwarves have had shamans for a while, so have Draenei, both of these are civilized peoples. It showed that shaman culture in ORC society was about spartan living. That does not mean that other cultures connection to the elements is better or worse, just different.

Both dwarves wild hammer and Draenei have some similar elements. Dranie shaman for example were the broken and they taught them. Broken seemed to live the balanced shaman life. I guess I though the wild hammer shaman did too.
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Kul Tirans tidespriest use the elements of air and water all the time.
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I won't be surprised if Thrall and Malfurion get shown up by a pair of Kul Tirans for most powerful Shaman and Druid.
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11/03/2018 12:10 PMPosted by Zerde
If having a class automatically means a human will dominate it? then why is:

The best warlock an orc?(Gul'dan)
The best hunter an elf?(pick your preferred Windrunner)
The best monk a pandaren?(Chen)


If we don’t include Gul’dan a case could be made just as a case could be made for most available cases(warrior, pally, priest, mage, rouge, DK). Which is a shame.

Also human dominate the lore when they are involved. We see this with shamans as the only active shamanism I see in BFA is Kul Tiran humans.
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11/03/2018 12:46 PMPosted by Reallyhappy
Kul Tirans tidespriest use the elements of air and water all the time.

Again not happy with this. As that is the only shamanism you see in BFA and it’s humans....
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If we don’t include Gul’dan a case could be made just as a case could be made for most available cases(warrior, pally, priest, mage, rouge, DK). Which is a shame.

Also human dominate the lore when they are involved. We see this with shamans as the only active shamanism I see in BFA is Kul Tiran humans.


Because its a nation of humans and they wanted to prop up the introduction of the human shaman! You migh as well complain why WoD only had orc shaman with not a single draenei shaman getting any spotlight!
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Humans can be every class except DH now. Blizzard's human bias is showing again.

Well, it never stops showing.
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11/03/2018 02:26 PMPosted by Lena
Humans can be every class except DH now. Blizzard's human bias is showing again.

Well, it never stops showing.


You mean how like Trolls (Including Zandalari since you are lumping all the humans together) can also now be every class but DHs?
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11/03/2018 02:26 PMPosted by Lena
Humans can be every class except DH now. Blizzard's human bias is showing again.

Well, it never stops showing.
Draenei should never have been shamans.
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Draenei should never have been shamans.


This is one of the few times I wish the dislike button was back! I always loved how my pre-cata shaman was always needed in a raid.

Also, we have had enough lore over the years to justify shaman existance. Hell, I always love the fact the draenei shaman generally go against the grain of draenei society and that Velen acknowledge we would be instrumental to helping draenei society.

You mean how like Trolls (Including Zandalari since you are lumping all the humans together) can also now be every class but DHs?


I say go further and consider that if we lump all the elven flavors together they can be any class they want!
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11/03/2018 02:32 PMPosted by Saiphas
You mean how like Trolls (Including Zandalari since you are lumping all the humans together) can also now be every class but DHs?


Ok, and? Trolls don't have persistent bias for them.

Great strawman there.
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Nah, these are fat humans.

Blizzard's narrative style means fat people can never be main characters.

You think I'm making a bad joke but it's true. They didn't even let any Pandaren be the main characters of Mists of Pandaria. It ended up being Garrosh, Vol'jin, Jaina and Varian.
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Ok, and? Trolls don't have persistent bias for them.
Great strawman there.


In the other thread you keep moaning about what a big loser Anduin is, which is it? Are humans Blizzard's choosen race or are they just as falliable as other races?
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11/03/2018 12:05 PMPosted by Zamari
Not to mention goblins, who approach the spirits the same way the approach more or less everything.
Goblin shaman and warlocks are just the best thing to imagine. A goblin lawyer mediating a contract reading between a greasy little goblin while an increasingly agitated looking felguard/fire elemental sits on the other side of the table, face in his hands and groaning.
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