We all know why Hpally aren’t in here talking.
BECAUSE THEY ARE OVERPOWERED!!!
Let that sink in.
Fellas it’s a PINK season .
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We’re too busy having fun
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Yeah.. thanks for initiating the nerf bat.
Nooo, we’re not talking because we’re falling so far behind on healing that every keystroke matters and we don’t have time to jibber jabber! Hpals need a 30% healing buff and 60% damage buff MINIMUM.
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Quite what?
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Damage buff would be nice …
Im with ya. Quite scary? Quite whiny? Quite pink? Where we going with this?
People have been saying holy has high throughput in season 2 and is expected to be a top healer. Is this not true?
Shhhhh not so loud!
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If they get nerfed it seems like it would be raid related. They have the top HPS in heroic raiding currently but are 5th in M+ HPS and 4th in DPS.
Dont worry, i just burst into tears in pvp
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Yeah, for the first time in forever.
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My experience after stepping into a raid (normal only - so this is hardly conclusive) has been pretty good - and I have yet to start M+. Obviously because this isn’t challenging content, it’s difficult to know how much things have improved, but I suspect that once things like tier bonuses and better gear kicks in, that will be more clear.
I feel like holy paladin has a perfect kit for m+, with our big single target heals that can turn into aoe with beacon of virtue, our cooldowns, dispels, etc. Most of our healing is instant cast as well, so can be done on the move. Now that our actual numbers seem to be in a good place yeah the spec feels great.
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Yep… Holy Pally hasn’t been a top healer for like… over 10 years. If not more. Legion did damage to its popularity.
It’s a good feeling and it plays fun too. Why priests gotta hate us? Can’t they go bug shamans or something.
Actually there was a brief period where HPal was seriously OP and dominated healing in Dragon Flight. Then the nerfs started and the randomness of talents and spells was kept fully intact throughout.
To play HPal you have to invest in the idea that this combination of relying on proc RNG and use cookie cutter talents. To stray means to use some of the 50% of talents that are useless decoys.
You also need to understand that HPal relies on procs RNGing at the right time in combination of spell rotations that no longer have proper addons to ease your way through. All very possible. Just because other healing classes have talents and spells that make sense, with rotations that fit in with the small(ish) limitations on addons, doesn’t mean HPal can’t do well.
We are still bloated with talents that are absolutely deliberate decoys - but most of our builders and spenders have been fixed. Damage is still mediocre, but the damage spells themselves do very useful things.
You just have to accept that HPal was never meant to be a simple class to play. You might achieve 90% of the healing of someone 10-15 ilvls higher, but your logs will be grey vs their blues. That doesn’t matter, it’s hubris. What matters is you did everything reasonably correctly, you stayed alive and the raid got the kill.
Default cooldown manager tells you when Infusion is up, and hpal 4-piece tier gives you 100% control over proccing Infusion any time you really need it.
Yes, the cooldown manager does do the job admirably, and when I get the 4-piece I look forward to H-Lighting my fusion when I need it.
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Nah when you have fun theres nothing to talk or complain about.
It hasn’t. Unfortunately due to the Army, I missed all of SL and S1/S2 of Dragon flight, so unless I was absent during the golden age of Holy Paladin, Idk how you came to this conclusion. Also look at where Hpally stands in Raid/PvP right now, they’re quite literally toward the bottom of the pack in Raid and almost unplayable in PvP. Don’t call mid-pack healers top.