My bad, someone was hating on Holy Power and somehow, I quoted you.
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I want my addons back. I want my unit frames addons back, vuhdo for healing, etc. If people want to use the blizz UI then let them, but I would really appreciate being able to “opt out” of their UI and use my own addons.
I could agree with the idea of it feeling awkward using holy shock for damage because you want to save it for healing, but holy shock seems like it’s always available with all the cooldown reduction talents. I didn’t mind crusader strike, but I don’t miss it. I love that it feels even less punishing not being in melee range.
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Not in the slightest. Whether or not someone finds crusader strike as an ability boring is entirely subjective, and you’re also acting like the ability could never or has never changed. Comparing it to Primal strike is very disingenuous.
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It hasn’t changed in a meaningful way since The Burning Crusade, which released in 2007. Actually probably didn’t change much since it’s true origin in vanilla WoW alpha/beta stages before it was removed. It was removed in 1.1.0 (https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_1.1.0).
The only difference over the years was whether it’s mostly about holy power or holy shock cooldown reduction or both.
It’s not at all. They’re both super basic boring melee abilities. Crusader strike might have slightly more interaction with mechanics, but it’s a boring animation, boring sound and the most basic kind of melee ability you can create besides an auto-attack.
If you want an example of a less boring paladin melee option (as well as some ranged ones) there’s probably half a dozen or more between Diablo 3 Crusader and Diablo 4 Paladin you could use as an example. A shame they just stole the horse thing (that not everyone wanted over older mobility options) and didn’t take some others. They really should steal some of the D4 spell effects as well, consecration is much better looking.
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I’m used to the horse now, but aesthetically preferred Speed of Light.
I know paladin had a pvp talent to knock people back with the horse, but I think it would be fun to also have one to drag people behind you like the Diablo crusader.
Rejoice! crusader strike returns
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Oh boy, a vocal minority convinced them to throw the entire beta in the garbage so people could press auto-attack without the auto every few seconds for super fun melee time. No real issues with the spec addressed of course in the last minute changes, just… CS.
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Trying it out on beta I found that I was not as hostile towards it as all the commentary was making it sound, I do think these current numbers and cooldown tweaks are atrocious but if they can make it work I think we’ll have the best of both worlds with this.
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Crusader strike comes with judgement and holy shock nerfs. I’d rather use the good abilities on short cd than have a bad ability (crusader strike) to try to reduce the cd. Bad change IMO.
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Don’t blame players who don’t want crusader strike to be pruned for Blizzards incompetence in re-adding it to the kit. This is a perfect example of Blizzard actually listening to feedback, but they screwed up the implementation so bad.
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We finally had a purely distance-neutral Holy Pally that neither needed to cast much or forced melee…
But these days, Blizz caters to useless NEETs who play this game too much and cry whenever a spec doesn’t have arbitrary complexity so they can feel accomplished at something in their miserable underachiever lives.
So now we objectively trade being distance neutral to melee-reliant.
A choice for either gameplay isn’t good enough for them, they HAVE to have it their way and all other else is the highway.
I absolutely blame the players because they know Blizz listens to the loudest baby rattle first.
Enjoy your massive rotational gaps and being forced to cast a bunch while in Melee range from how much you hated ‘caster holy pally’ 
[it was all instant casts before mandatory CS you nincompoops].
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Rising Sunlight died so CS can live 
Holy wow this is bad, they finally were figuring out how to make holy fun again and went back to trash.
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It aint this deep bro
Crusader strike is back baby. Best news I’ve seen about Midnight in months.
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i blame you personally
this change sucks
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Good for you
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I feel like they just ruined the spec entirely with bring CS back, it was such a boring button to push. Maybe they should have designed the spec where one hero tree enabled melee play style and ther other enabled ranged. convert crusader strike to crusader lance on the range tree for ranged style and give it some synergy with the ranged abilities.
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To be fair. There is no reason why paladin would not be the melee-centric healer. Priests already exists. What role do paladins serve? Personally I see the obvious solution. Bring back Crusader strike permanently ONLY if you spec into Avenging Crusader. Remove the silly cooldown nerfs on judgement and holy shock. Buff the hell out of Might of the Crusader Talent, so that Crusader Strikes heals like almost a holy shock even without wings.
There, now ranged Holy and melee Holy can play in peace.
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