The elf Paladin further proves the point.
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Like, to be clear, I’ve had some good experiences before this thread with cross-realm events, but the behavior here has definitely made me more comfortable interacting with the distance of being on a different server. Being careful about which events I join up with. And being VERY careful when I have a concept from some side thing Blizzard made that maybe not everyone noticed or acknowledged, or unique concepts in general, hiding them and being quiet about them in the events I participate in.
If the prevailing attitude here becomes more on the outs with MG-H as a community, that could change in the future, but for now, definitely would rather not trap a character in… this, to play that character.
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Honestly, I do not think walkup rp will be likely, given that Orgrimmar is not as conducive to walkup rp as Stormwind is. Which, unless Blizzard revamps Orgrimmar -again-, that won’t change anytime soon. Secondly, those active Horde rp guilds are quite welcoming to new players, each with their own expectations to those joining. I can’t speak to any of them, but, you can approach each and see what they are looking for in new members.
And, regarding the pro-garrosh/pro-sylvanas attitude that is supposedly prevalent on Horde-side, I can honestly say that I have not seen that kind of mindset for a while on here. Does it exist, possible, since I have not met every member of the Horde RP community.
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There has to be a better option than this though, because you shouldn’t feel like you have to participate on the fringes. I think that’s kind of worrisome for community health, but the other option I see - where everyone who is not part of the old guard does their own thing as a community - also isn’t good. I think for health and community longevity there can’t be a split or an othering of new blood.
I WANT Horde RP, but it feels like the narrative decisions with the game coupled with whatever has happened in the not too distant past on a community level has strangled any chance for the community to thrive.
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shrug That’s up to the people actually inside this community. I’m just doing what keeps me having fun.
The better option is the people here doing better. I can’t force that, I can just keep my own sanity.
As a veteran of this server, the Horde rp community has endured alot. Does it excuse some of the comments made here, probably not. But it has its reasons for being wary. Now, there are a good number of events where newcomers can dip their toes into Horde rp that don’t require them joining a guild. Sanari mentioned a good number of them earlier.
You just contradicted yourself. How can you be closed off and wary of outsiders but welcome to new members?
I think the main reason for this post is getting buried beneath unnecessary jabs.
First of all, there are cesspools on both sides, Horde and Alliance. Stormwind is a notorious cesspool of drama-mongers and trolls. And this is coming from someone who mains Alliance-side RP. It’s a big reason why I started RPing out in the world. There are some really great and thriving communities and the same can be said Horde side as well.
One person’s sh!t take shouldn’t dictate you exploring both Alliance and Horde to find what works best for you. Most of the server events that are cross faction are pretty fun but to label an entire faction as one thing or another is a bit unfair.
I’ve been to and host my own cross-faction events and we have a great time. It’s not as tough to find a community as some are claiming. A two minute community application really is a small price to pay for a lifetime of great RP. Quality over Quantity always. I’ll take a couple available communities over Stormwind Staring Contests any day.
Not to mention that due to the amount of trolls, bots, scammers, etc that will try to infiltrate spaces just so they can link inappropriate content almost makes some sort of interview process necessary. In my own project discord, I’m inundated with such accounts near daily.
So if a community has a small interview process or application to fill out? They’re trying to keep the space safe for their members and we really should be more appreciative of that. if you can’t be @ssed to take two minutes out of your life to answer like… 5-10 questions, then… suffer? I suppose? But it’s no reason to gaslight a community.
Pawshade sounds extra sweaty picking apart what others say to just to put them down or otherwise devalue their contributions.
OP, and anyone else who is taking this forum at face value, you’re really doing yourself a disservice. There are some great opportunities both sides and I would be happy to introduce you to some communities, either faction, that could be a great fit for you. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet, folks. Think for yourselves.
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When people tell me who they are, I believe them. They tell me they’re jerks, I listen and avoid them.
Don’t you have rp events to troll?
Nothing I’m doing here is trolling. You just don’t like what I’m saying. Get over yourself.
I said rp events, not forum posts. So you get over yourself.
Respectfully, the words you used to describe the reactions? Are not ‘wary’.
Venom. Tongue lashing. Off-putting.
This language has the very clear underlying message “I don’t want you here, and I am disgusted that you are even asking.”
I do not want to say that is how you, personally, feel. But the language strongly suggests that.
By all means, take sensible precautions. But please consider what other people are going through. Someone just said they mained Horde for over 15 years, they feel more comfortable there, but they are afraid of even attempting to join the community because they are afraid of immediately being ostracized.
People who are trying to join the ranks of Horde RP are telling you that they are having difficulty doing so. Do you think all of them are lying? Do you think the people within the Horde RP community who have said they need to do a better job of publicizing things are also lying?
Sanari did mention several events. I suppose my question to you would be how would someone find out about this in game? Someone new to Horde RP. Someone who wants to RP a Mag’har trying to fit in with your oddly green kin, or a goblin looking to make a quick buck, or some such. They log in, get to Orgrimmar. They don’t know anyone.
How are they going to find places to RP? How are they going to find out about these events? As much as me and some of my friends joke about ‘Ledge RP’ in Stormwind, you can always at least find somewhere to get started.
I don’t see that when I’m in Horde side.
And here’s the thing that I think maybe is being lost: This ‘random RP’ is kind of what leads to longer storyline connections. It’s entirely possible that you’ll never see that person talking about their ‘haunted past’ again. But it might also be a case where that leads to meetings with guilds, with groups, etc.
I would argue that that kind of thing is necessary. It’s what lets people know what’s going on. I can probably ask anyone in Stormwind what day Om Nom Noodles is around, or what’s the name of the cooking draenei. I don’t even know where I would start to find about the Lordaeron Court, and I know someone in that group.
You guys need more people. I don’t see you getting that unless some of y’all start sheathing your claws when people express an interest.
Also, I don’t mean to just single you out. I am just responding to this one, in particular.
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No worries. And I know you mean well in your posts, unlike others on here. And your points are valid. Though, when it comes to some events, their schedules are out there and advertised. Granted the posts could use some bumps to the top, but that’s another matter.
Quite honestly your posts are making me want to try to drum something up Horde-side or find a guild there. Super level-headed posting, you’re very eloquent and you’re putting to words what I’ve seen gleaning through this thread.
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You’ve mentioned me, without offering a pretzel? Outrageous. Uqur the Harvester will remember this! … wherever he is.
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I have been following the topic since my last post, and I wanted to add a bit more in here of my own personal experience on Horde-side, or working with it.
I somewhat recently led a small guild named Shadow of Lordaeron, we are inactive and shut down (at least for now) as of January after losing steam after an rp plot disaster. We were open to both factions as a Cult of the Damned guild. We had originally gotten a few members who made Horde-side characters and found it difficult to keep that RP alive outside of the guild. As GM I found it practically impossible to get any members in from Horde-side too. It’s very guild focused, yes, small and of course our guild idea was niche.
During WoD and Legion (insane how long it’s been) I role played a wandering Forsaken Apothecary from time-to-time. I got a bit of roleplay then, though it has been a long time since then. Horde-side has struggled and kept going, building themselves up and surviving.
However, it is admittedly difficult to enter Horde RP on Moon Guard in comparison to Wyrmrest Accord. On other similar posts I’ve stated I support the fact Horde RP is trying to grow here, that people should give it a try or more if you are okay with a guild. WRA, you have better luck without a guild in comparison.
It is disheartening to hear “Oh go do your own thing.”, “We built this up, if you want change do it yourself.”, and of course: “Oh another question about activity here, great.” Along with others. It creates a look, at least in my opinion, of being unwelcoming, venom-tongued, and even toxic. Especially when it comes from those who run events or help run/manage some of Horde-side’s biggest guilds.
Now I’m not saying this is the truth of how it is. It’s shown far and wide that the people on Horde-side here on MG truly care about it, and want to see it grow. But the word choice and sense of hostility here presents an unwelcoming nature in contradiction to what others have said.
I recently came back to the game about a month ago and considered going to Horde side for a new character. I didn’t, just because the game right now is in an odd state at the end of an expansion (as it always is) but even I made a few Horde characters in MoP remix for potentially the future.
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Pinched a nerve I guess.
I’ve made similar points but you count them as invalid. Why’s that? Cant pick and choose your battles when it’s all the same one.
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I’ve been keeping some eyes on the thread, but I did want to say Vanaelia has been an absolute star and has managed to really put together what I feel some issues are. I appreciate them so much.
Rest assured, this has opened some eyes to some of us and I hope that we can make efforts to be more open and perhaps a little less aggressive in our messaging.
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TBH the posts I’ve read from you and yours with the guild tag has made me consider finally trying to roll a military character, so if I do end up going that route with whatever alt I drum up I may apply to the War Wolves.
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