I would remove all those mini CCs
Also they’re a bit too tanky.
Yall can just say i was right about RLx taking over the ladder soon. I was wrong about it being with rsham though.
Yeah like it has all the tools to kite AND do high damage while it hides behind a pillar AND crazy survivability should you be able to catch them.
BM Hunter can kite while pets are on you, but nowhere near the cc or survivability if they get caught.
Any class that relies heavily on pets needs a drawback for doing so, and currently Demo has none
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Maybe it’s becoming more popular. Dunno. Lately between the CC, gate, port, etc. They just seem to get away. Or just they just set up camp on earthen.
Tyrant feels pretty easy to shutdown. =/
If you get Threat Plates, you can just make a custom bar for it that makes targeting it super easy. Then just kick, cc, or kill it.
Definitely agree.
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Demo (like BM), gets a lot of their passive damage from pets. Sustain is pretty solid. Burst can be nuclear if nobody shuts down the Tyrant. But let’s be real, shutting down the Tyrant, or Tyrant set up at this point is easier than just heroic leaping and lining it.
Their burst seems pretty in check.
Defensives are pretty nuts considering they can spend a whole 5 minute arena session tanking damage and being the target that receives the most damage by a HUGE margin.
Is this a bad thing though? Been playing demo consistently since decimating build in slands (which is pretty out of reach for their mo). One thing that hasn’t changed is the more a Demo is trained, the more damage you’re stopping. I think that’s fair, Demo should give up damage to stay mobil & tanky, following up with maybe some reverse pressure by setting up cc goes & hoping tyrant can get off a few 30k-70k bolts b4 it gets shut down.
I know demo’s are menacing now more than ever, but as it stands, they seem to be the only caster that stands much of a chance in this out of control, full on mobile melee meta.
I believe the constant nerfs they get will really only enable melee cleaves much more than they already are.
Yep, between these, pact, wall, empowered healthstone, axe toss, second axe toss and coil they’re a little bit tricky to kill. 
Oh, and they can turn peoples crits off. That’s neato.
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Demos fine.
Its a tanky spec with solid sustain, low burst (tyrant still does its damage over a long period) and that burst is literslly the easiest cooldown to counter. Tyrants only contribution vs non bads is boosting your other pets by 15% most of the time.
Sorry fellas, but stop looking for the next spec to blame your terrible skill on.
Arms/hunter/demo are all fine.
Shut up sofan youve always been an idiot
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If they are gonna be tanks, they need to be turrets who hard cast.
Remove Instant dreadstalkers. Nerf pet damage. You shouldn’t be able to have a built in dampen mechanic after hitting whatever’s available from mid field cuz nobody ever wants to attempt killing you.
Buff hard casts to compensate if needed.
Probably nerf soul link and/or dark pact in pvp.
The secrets out!
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We’re just a few weeks away from that.
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Small imps no longer have nameplates
Nah, I’m not.
You sound angry kid, you good?
Does demo need nerfed tho? Think about it the lock died a few times in those matches yesterday. Yes they have strong defenses but he also had an amazing mage peeling for him and helping him kite to create space between the ret/war teams.
Tyrant is by far the easiest cool down to counter simply by los/cc or even kicking it. They’re nerfing dread stalkers so that its no longer instant and outside of tyrant/grim felguard cds the dmg is meh.
What specifically would you like nerfed about them?
If I had to guess, it would be to increase the cast time of Tyrant and increase its damage by 10%. Should treat it as a high risk - high reward play style.
The easiest way to nerf Demo is to make all former ret players into Demo Locks
boom quick nerfs
Demo is up there rn as one of the best specs imo.
I think its perfectly fine tho, and more specs should be put up to par to demos relative strenght.
Make them not tanks, double pet stun is dumb, and imps eating CC is absolutely trash.
Yep.
Boomkin, Frost mage, Ele sham, Shadow priest and Destro lock. As far as damage most casters are within 5-10% of each other.
Nah, CC’s fine and pet eating crap is a feature.
Sounds like you need better setups.