We freed him at Xe’ra’s behest, as it was part of her plan.
How many times that I’ve said that if you want a character to compare her to, there’s no better one than Babylon 5’s “Dark Kosh” (Although as we find out, it was Kosh that was the outlier for his race.)
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Illidan’s a 90’s comic character in video game form.
I think the Lightforged are already quite familiar with Fel magic considering they’ve fought the Burning Legion for thousands of years.
And Illidan is nearly twice Turalyon’s height and caught the blade at the beginning of the swing, so that’s nothing special.
Whitewashed by retcons, just like Sylvanas.
Conflating it with sex is creepy.
- Illidan’s not a woman, technically Xe’ra was.
- It’s not a date, sex or a relationship.
- So if a criminal says no to incarceration, they shouldn’t be incarcerated? Or refuses to get a vaccine? In some circumstances “no” doesn’t matter.
You didn’t answer my question about the draft, prison labor and court ordered community service. Does “no mean no” then? And when Illidan forced Akama to serve him?
You love trying to deflect facts with personal attacks, false accusations and venting your prejudice. If that was true, it would also be true that you see the Light as a stand-in for Christianity and project your anti-religious atheistic views onto it. Your prejudice also makes you eager to mock, troll or argue against me more than most on this forum. Back on the ignore list you go.
at the end, you can clearly see that. He even did it with both hands https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0pUwrBWjc
It was one hand, the other was braced on the floor, and Turalyon had just started to swing the blade down.
I will admit though, what Illidan said at the end was true when he said There can be no chosen one, only we can save ourselves
How would he know that? How silly of me wanting to trust the word of an ancient cosmic being who can see the future and read minds over a much younger, much less well-travelled fel junkie who spent nine-tenths of his life away from it all in a 9 x 9 underground cell.
He was right in the end, Xe’ra was anything but righteous and she died for her arrogance
If everyone from Azeroth had waited for salvation, they would have been dead years ago. So they saved themselves by fighting back
Wrong. They weren’t expected to wait for salvation. Note that Xe’ra created an ARMY of people to fight the Legion for millennia before Illidan existed. She also wasn’t going to disband the Army of the Light and throw Illidan against Antorus by himself lol.
Since you clearly forgot, the lightforged were loosing badly against the legion until we show up and help them out
Chooses ones don’t save people, people can only save themselves
You clearly forgot that the Illdari needed the Army of the Light too, as you yourself said earlier;
You’d be surprised how many works of fiction and real-life would disagree with your assessment of chosen ones. Even in Warcraft itself (Thrall was getting a bit “chosen one” in Cata and successfully helped defeat Deathwing. Tirion Fording also headed in that territory against the Lich King… and he used the Light to do so too).
Plus, chosen ones are people too.
If you believe in it, of course you’re going to think it’s true. But no, chosen ones aren’t going to save any of us. That’s just a Christian concept
Our differing beliefs aside, you’re either lying or clearly don’t know much about other religions in real-life if you think chosen ones are only in Christianity. There’s a few Buddhists, Jews and Pagans to name a few who’d like a word.
And are in denial of what I said about fiction which is irrelevant to our real-life beliefs. I think you’re going for personal attacks because you’re running out of facts for our debate.
- It does not matter whether it’s man on woman or woman on man, and yes it does happen.
- It’s about forcing oneself on another, it’s an act of violence.
- Illidan was not arrested, was not a prisoner, and what X’era was pushing was certainly no vaccine. Vaccination during Covid in this country was still a volountary act. No one was being tied down and having needles jammed into them. There were consequences for not being vaccinated but that’s irrelevant here.
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Maybe she should have paid more attention to the outcome of what she was going to do then.
And ancient cosmic beings have a trope history of getting the most basic things wrong and screwing up as a result. DC’s Guardians of the Universe ride that one almost constantly. Azeroth is a history of contingency plans that went horribly wrong.
A Lightforged “demon” is no longer a demon. Demons are beings who consume fel, and if they no longer use fel and are Lightforged, they’re not a demon anymore.
Lothraxion isn’t even considered a demon anymore, it’s explained he used to be a demon but was “converted” to the Light. In Shadowlands its even revealed he’s been playing the Army of the Light this whole time, and is just making them believe he’s been converted.
I haven’t attacked you at all, so leave your paranoia at the door. And in my religion, our gods are hands off. They will help if asked, but a lot of them demand you get things done yourself
The God I serve might be more hands on, but He still expects us to do things for ourselves even with His help.
Other people on the forums have gotten personal in mean-spirited and/or petty ways and attacked me for my faith (one of them is even in this thread) and that prejudice and vitriol makes me wary, you understand?
Back on topic, what about those chosen ones in fiction I cited? Or ones close to like Thrall and Tirion.
Yeah, I understand. I just wanted to clarify where I was coming from on our religious debate. I mean no ill will towards you
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I don’t think a single contingency plan on Azeroth actually worked as intended. The only things that actually held up were the Emerald Dream and the prisons of the Elemental Lords (even if they are less prisons and more pimped out houses).
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