How to wipe out the High Elves

That’s a weird way to word it. They didn’t sacrifice themselves. They were massacred. But yes, the name change was a gesture of remembrance for the fallen. But symbolic gestures can sadly become distorted into points of division.

I disagree. They changed their name out of grief. But the thing about grief is that you process it and you heal. The elves’ trauma and tragedy was so great that they literally made it their whole identity. But people move on even from great tragedies. It doesn’t mean you stop caring or stop remembering. And you aren’t doing anyone wrong by moving on.

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It was also to honor the dead. I’m happy being a Blood Elf. I don’t want to be a Helf, Velf or any other elf.

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I mean the speech given to the rename wasn’t just built upon honouring the blood shed and in honour of the fallen, but also the honour of their kin and even their children to come – So revoking the name that was made in such foundations kind of would be spitting in the face of those values.


:diamonds: The naming of the Blood Elves —

"We must put this misery behind us. We must enter a new chapter!
And so I say to you that, as of this day, we are no longer high elves! In honor of the blood that was shed throughout this kingdom, in honor of the sacrifices of our brothers and sisters, our parents, and our children, in honor of Anasterian… as of this day we will take the name of our royal lineage! As of this day, we are sin’dorei! For Quel’Thalas!”
— Kael’Thas Sunstrider.


Also —

  • Suggesting they should ditch the name in service of ‘healing’ is kind of a copout statement. If someone used that same logic in real life to remove say ‘ANZAC day’ – I don’t think it would fly so well. lol
  • They did move on. They took upon the name Blood Elves and rebuilt, it was quite literally part of the reason to why they took up the name as per the above quote by Kael’Thas.
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That’s not the same thing at all. Australians and New Zealanders didn’t rename themselves ANZACs.

Yes, and what they moved onto was death, demonic corruption, and a fracturing of their people. In the spirit of reunifying, I say look to when they were unified.

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I’m not saying its the same thing, I’m saying it’s working under the same logic. The logic of suggesting to remove something as a sign of healing.

None of that wasn’t the zenith of the reason to their namesake though.
It was ultimately in honour of the dead and in honour of moving forward as a people.

How they move on & the fallout of either upon them - or from them, isn’t karma or consequence for simply changing their namesake.

I suggest the same ordeal, but unifying as one towards ‘Blood Elves’ :person_shrugging:

I can’t see us agreeing here, as we hold different mindsets on the interpretation & manner of the ordeal – So I’ll say we can respectfully agree to disagree.

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Yeah it’s cool. I hope this wasn’t seen as an argument. Just a discussion.

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Yeah 100%

At the end of the day, like with any story — It falls down to the whims of the writers. Whether from one suggestion or another, for better or worse it comes down to their say-so.

Heck, they could shaft everyone if they wanted, unify them and then rename the elves as ‘Boogaloo Elves’ and there could be nothing we could do about it. :joy:

Ultimately:

Personally, I just hope the execution & story build of how they conclude the outcome is understandable & good.

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Not up on current events I see?

Have them all in Dalaran to celebrate Veressa’s Birthday.
Shoot Dalaran down.
War Within.

What? No way. That would be crazy…
:grimacing:

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it seems to me, the high elves werent against the rename, but rather the stuff that accompanied the rename. if that stuff no longer existed, the only thing hindering them from taking the blood elf moniker would be their capacity to forgive the past, which from the sounds of it, is gonna happen anyway

They didn’t like us siphoning from living beings. I think they are ok siphoning other power sources. Since they do feed from the well occasionally.

I kind of don’t want Belves to stay pristine though. I feel like something unique and primal was lost at the end of TBC.

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if horde and alliance merged into a new faction, named something like the azerothians, then a second new faction could be made, named something like entity, composed of people who dont want to fight for azeroth as an united front or they dont want to forgive and forget. in this faction, new races could also be added, like san’layn, naga, nerubians and so on. this would resurrect the concept of good vs questionable, so that entity isnt completely monster-fied

that would open up the option to describe stories about the entity races that help us understand their decisions, just as we learned the backstory of the orcs

Sustained orbital bombardment with mass drivers. Then probably go have lunch.

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Lame races that MANY players would actually play to max level rather than…you know unique races that fall behind in population statistics?

This is about as likely to happen as Troggs becoming a new allied race for Alliance while the Horde gets Naaru.

Like we may be at a point where the devs are done with the faction conflict but the identity of both factions is way too useful of a narrative tool to be simply thrown out.

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wow that would be the penultimate visage race. lol

did you read the rest of that post?

I’m more interested in what’s good for the game then what’s simply popular because the high elves are simply put a narratively barren race; they don’t add anything to the alliance from a depth or perspective standpoint, their defining trait seems to be that they’re weebs for human culture, and the three most prominent high elves in the lore of the setting are a trio of sisters that are archer waifus for a writer’s self insert.

They are the most generic non-playable race in the game outside of Troggs with nothing that really sets them apart from the elves in a thousand other different IPs.

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Didn’t need to, but since you brought it up I’d point out that the second faction wouldn’t work since many of those races would be working at cross purposes and simply tear themselves apart; It’d be like a version of the three stooges where everyone thinks they’re Moe.

hahaha. curly my fav
so naga wouldnt agree with expat blood elves? we know nerubians will work for their best interests and have their own factions. maybe the faction who worked with arthas, goes to bat for san’layn, who share that past?