How to Have Fun in BFA?

That depends on the future development of the game. One camp likes retail, one camp prefers the old way. It is nigh impossible to please both at the same time.

You won’t be alone, my entire guild will still be progressing in retail. Some aren’t even playing classic because they already did back in the day. :slight_smile:

Step 1.) Gank noobs and people with warmode who shouldn’t have warmode on
Step 2.) Watch them create forum posts crying about being killed in warmode with it on
Step 3.) ???
Step 4.) Profit

Don’t worry. Ion will be around to make sure and tell you how you should be having fun in his game.

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One thing to think about is this:

What incentive players have to build or have interest in community and communication when the company prides itself on lack of communication with its player base?

How difficult would it be for Blizzard to have every account, upon log in to the game answer simple poll questions?
Even if you don’t use the data, how a simple gesture would change everyone’s approach to the game, when you consider that the company is actually gathering accurate data on how its player base feels, rather than the small loud minority on the forums?

I don’t buy that people are against eliminating old features, or at least improving them, like the LFG for example. We just have never seen a full active player poll on a single issue in 15 years. All we see is the “majority” uproar from forums and other websites.

Im rambling…

Personally, guilds are completely useless to me. My guild occasionally will have someone pop on, but it’s usually just me. Those that do pop on, I’ve been friends with for years and we might do some war fronts or world quests together.

My two Alliance guilds are both pretty active. One I don’t really ever interact with, and the other has a very very small number of regular people who I love chatting with.

Other than that, I could go guildless and really notice no difference in how I play.

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This thread’s title made expect it to contain ideas for fun things to do. Instead, it’s just about trying to push harder on the people who don’t want to be in guilds.

If guild perks, guild vendors, guild repairs, guild activities, guild banks, and guild chat aren’t incentive enough, how much of a bribe do you think would be needed to induce all these loners to join guilds? I’m willing to be bribed, but I don’t believe that pushing people who don’t want to join guilds into doing so will make them happier.

To be clear, I don’t want to push guilds on anyone. If you want to play solo, play solo. It was just me talking about what my experience was and asking others to share and discuss. I don’t think the fact that I have fun in my guild or the fact that a guild is useful for me, should be generalized to everyone.

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Problem is a lot of guilds form lil cliche in the guild and only really associate with those in a group like that. Another problem is guilds seem to be getting more pc at least some, i know one guild actually had the gm talk to me cuz they thought my “trolling” on general forums was putting out a bad image for the guild and if i continued to do it i would be removed. It seems to be hard to find a guild with similar mindset, goals and find yourself comfortable in. Honestly since my guild i was in MoP died in WoD i have yet to fund a group i have gelled with sp it end up with me taking frequent break and rerolling alot hoping to find a new group i mesh with

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I was in a guild for a few years (2005-2008?), then it fell apart. I agree it is excellent. It made the game more fun. The main benefit was having people to talk with, ask questions of and give answers to. But I often joined groups that were forming, just because I liked playing WoW with these people.

But I haven’t found a guild since then. It’s because of how I play WoW:

  1. I don’t do end-game (pvp, mythic dungeons, or raids). Many guilds have those activities as a main focus.

  2. I’m an altoholic and a crafter. That means that I switch characters every 30 minutes, play my “auction house mule” for an hour a day, and play 3 to 5 different toons each day. I am usually levelling 1 or 2 characters at a time. But even those, I usually play for only 1 hour at a time.

  3. I don’t use voice chat, at all. I need a guild that chats by typing.

I sometimes accept guild invites, even though I’ll be switching characters in 20 minutes. I wish Blizzard would allow me to join a Guild once and have all my characters in the guild, so I could switch toons and stay in the conversation.

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If Blizzard would actually update significant features in the game, like for example the need for “bank guilds” in a different way, it would help tremendously with things like that.

I have that issue, only my main joins guilds, all my alts are part of my economic network so they belong to my bank guild. You can’t build community like that.

Account bound/battle.net guilds would be a good step towards fixing that. Sadly I think we are late to see such improvements.

EDIT: I feel that is what the "community tab is meant to be, but it’s just badly implemented imo.

I don’t think players can be (at least alone) or should be bribed by those kinds of things to join a guild. I think what would make them happier is if my experience in my guild could be replicated to others. Players in this thread have indicated that some of their frustration has come from how the guild was run, who and how many people were on, cliques, etc. which have nothing to do with “guilds” as pure gameplay or mechanics. Of course people won’t be happy doing something that they already don’t want to do, but for those that haven’t considered that finding a good guild would make them happier in BFA maybe they should. Or for those that have tried, it has been interesting to see what problems they encountered.

You make a lot of good points here, (especially about getting back into raiding).

My one character is in a guild (probably one of the very few that’s even active on that server), and I’ve gotten maybe a handful of responses from the people who were online. I’ve asked various times if people wanted to do X Y Z, and I got no answer, so I gave up. I mainly PvP or run TW dungeons these days, and I can do those solo, so that’s what I do.

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Didn’t have to take any steps OP been haveing a blast aka fun from day one :slight_smile:

I absolutely agree that having a guild which is active in all of the areas you have interest is paramount to maximizing your enjoyment of the game. If you are someone who enjoys the quick play style, you probably don’t care either way. But if you are someone with high expectations and who wants to experience all the game has to offer, I would say your experience in BFA is probably slightly down in overall quality, but for the most part still very enjoyable if you have a very active and large guild that you can just log on to and ask if anyone wants to do X activity and go do it.

Part of the issue we are running into is that some folks have been arguing that having so much of the potential of the game locked behind having a reliable/active group of friends is a weakness of the game. I think since BFA’s launch though, most proponents of both retail and classic wow are coming to bounce back and realize that the reliance on community is integral to a high quality WOW experience.

So to your point, yes, I think WOW should do more with guilds. Priority 1 should be to increase visibility into what guilds are, what the benefits of being in one are, and how you can get in one. Then step 2 is to reignite some of what we saw around cataclysm with guild rewards (mounts, special feast options, better tiers of guild tabards, non-combat buffs, etc) to help generate some incentives and promote further social interaction. Despite all of those cool things I listed above, I specifically remember when these guild rewards launched I was super excited about the Armadillo Pup pet, and had fun getting my buddies on board with the “Critter Kill Squad” guild achievement. I’d heckle folks while we were killing trash in raid if I saw a rat run by and the closest guy didn’t kill it. Was just kind of a fun/funny side attraction thing. But I think those kinds of little distractions and opportunities for good natured whimsy are kind of an element that is getting overlooked in today’s game. It can give a good shot to the social aspect of the game.

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To keep the game fun, I just play below the burnout line.

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Yep bout time for me to reroll and try again…lol 3rd attempt this expansion