How to Fix: Casual VS Elite Debate

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How about just play the game your way and not worry about what others do or the rewards they get?

How hard can it be?

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They should either remove heroic or merge heroic and mythic +1 and put optionally on LFG.

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There is no Casuals VS Elite Debate.

It is Casuals VS High End Content Scrubs That Think They are Elite.

Elite would be guilds like Limit or Echo or teams that participate in the MDI or Arena Championships.

What we have here are the casuals going up against people whose end game isn’t seeing how far they can push content but people seeing how big they can make their epeen and show it of to people who wouldn’t spend a second playing with them . If they were as good as their egos make them think they are they would be in game pushing to have their guild be the next World First raid guild or forming their own team to possibly be the next MDI or Arena champion .

If they are in game they are most likely using Raider io to find people they hope will play with them but more likely looking for those that will carry them.

I laugh at these people and their if your raider io lvl is low you suck . Do you think the real elite players use raider io ? Nah they don’t all of those people in here telling us to get good are just the scrubs of the high end content bracket. :rofl:

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There are plenty of players posting in these threads that are actually mythic raiders or push high keys.

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Can’t really remove heroic, without changing the entire loot progression system.

I’d have no issue with putting mythic 0 or whatever on LFG. But I feel like that doesn’t really change things as far as the complaints are concerned. Just moves slightly the barrier for when people will complain.

Well considering you started off bashing people that disagree with you, I can tell the following points of your post will be amazing.

That lived up to expectations on exactly how I thought it would go.

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Still doesn’t make them elite

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That’s your personal definition of “elite”, not any sort of universally accepted one.

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Plenty of people that claim to be “casual” and aren’t.

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They should work to equalize ilvls in PvP. Or at least smooth out the gap. Because if you’re really that good and special and skilled, why do you need a 30 ilvl gap and 15k extra HP?

Outside of that, the new gearing system is just depressing and stingy. I feel like a good amount of people do a few keys, if that, because mythic dungeons drop mediocre gear and wait for their vault. There’s no incentive to do a huge amount of them, so it’s kind of dried up. I don’t think adding a que is going to fix that.

As for raiding, I always thought Ulduar struck a great balance. Instead of the world first e-sport garbage they do now. Here is the raid, but there are optional challenges.

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That’s pretty far from what’s being asked.

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Imho, you can’t fix it this problem it has been going on for a very long time. it only whine up circumventing again.

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just throwing this out there, you can’t fix casual/elite culture, if you want the game to maintain support, you have to cater to the majority of the fanbase, problem is, there’s not that many elites these days, so why change? back in vanilla, elites was the majority at 90%, in today’s gamebase 90% of the gamebase is casual, which is why SL is very story heavy this expansion, no one wants to grind, no one wants to get out of fire, and no one wants to earn their way up

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Except people are literally asking for mythic raid ilvl loot for casuals.

Or create systems for both?

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Or instead of Blizzard making a new system why not just play the content to get the rewards?

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Welcome!

Ignore it and move on :+1:

Find a thread with our resident cookie provider and see if you can get yourself a cookie :slight_smile:

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That would be good, but they are limited in resources and time to create that as of now since the expanse has start it may be to late to even try.

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Yeah but if the currency scales, casuals will have to grind a LOT more dungeons than a tryhard player. That difference in time investment makes it fair and is very far from a world quest reward - so please stop being dramatic. You sound like my wife.

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I don’t care if they make mythic plus queable as long as I can make premade groups.

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Should also delete all the threads whining about elites being meany faces while they’re at it.

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Yea me and you are plebs.