How to fix Calia Menethil (mild spoilers)

5? Sylvanas lost it for 5 people? How.

I am just having fun. I don’t take these faction stuff as seriously as people in the thread do. Will just enjoy the Alliance bias posts until they become Horde bias again and I joke around with it too.

:rofl:

Calia can come back to the Alliance if the Horde wants. Baine and Anduin will receive her in the faction wiht open arms.

It would have been a safe assumption that she was. She was there when lordaeron fell. No one saw or heard from her. Arthas even thought she was dead. When she finally made it to southshore she kept her identity a secret. She had a fanily to protect and if she was known it could have made them a target. The Menethil name was not popular.

Speaking of which, why is it still called Menethil Harbor? That always seemed weird to me.

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We get that a lot :laughing:

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Idk, if I’m destroying an entire kingdom and there’s like 2 people who need to die to ensure the royalty is over, I’m gunna make sure the 2 of them are dead

Clearly Calia was not important

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Even fewer, I don’t remember. She was at a few meetings with the selected Forsaken who were supposed to participate in this little event her and Alonzus Faol cooked up. She met with those few Forsaken once a few times. Saying she’s liked by the Forsaken, based on that is bogus.

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And many stood against Arthas.

Not her though.

Whats the word for running away when others stay and fight?

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Politician?

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It’s “Bathroom!”

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close. but a politician wouldnt be there to begin with.

they just send others to fight from their place of safety

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This makes no sense. The Gathering was to unite both Forsaken and Humans, how will they bring less than 5 people? Where was the amount stated?

Wowpedia mentions more than 5 people approaching Calia and one of them wanting to leave the Horde, but that doesn’t mean the gathering was less than 5 people. Who puts 25 soldiers and spies for a gathering of less than5 people with Faol and an assistant?

Yes, its true. Despite her martial prowess and towering stature, she did not stand against her brother.

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That’s not really how all this works in terms of real rulers. If everyone in a royal household got terminated except for one child who decided to leave the royal life the bloodline alone could absolutely drum up followers. There would be plenty of so-called cousins or distant relations or people who pretended to be trying to find supporters to push their much more tenuous claims. Absent there being a designated successor (and even then the King is dead so wgaf at that point in many cases) it’d be a free for all and being from that royal family is a pretty decent starting point. IRL in a non-undead scenario thered be tons of rando noblemen trying to get with her so their kid could be a direct prince from the royal family.

There are still rando dudes who are pretenders to thrones long extinct floating around out there with little clubs of supporters. This timelines much more recent so it wouldn’t be surprising there would be some royalists out there seeking to use her to gain themselves influence in the Forsaken power vacuum. Even if you don’t personally put a lot of stock in her own claim surely you can see why opportunists in the faction would seek to use her for power themselves? We have seen a lot of very self-interested and power hungry Forsaken over the years.

Hmm you just made me wonder something.

I always assumed she was a priest, from the beginning, like her brother was a paladin.

But I’m not sure on that one.

I’m sure she could have put up more of a fight than a withered old man

But you’re bringing IRL scenarios into this and not paying attention to what’s written. Calia isn’t real so we can’t play “whataboutisms.”

What’s written is she was stricken from the line when she disobeyed her father and ran away from what he thought was an excellent arranged marriage to marry a commoner.

I’m not sure. Actually I can’t even remember when she was first introduced as a character. Probably in the Arthas novel I guess. But that was all backstory. For all intents and purposes she was created for Legion, with everything post third war gradually added retroactively.

The back and forth between you and Akston just made me wonder if she could have or at least helped, as a priest I mean, stand against Arthas.

I’ve never heard or remembered a character becoming a class after they died except… DKs or necromancers.

so many others did.

there is more than one way to stand against someone, other than physical combat. she could have easily been a leader, a rallying point throughout the years.

instead, she hid for what? a decade? until it was safe to come out.

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I missed a lot of the stuff where people evidently decided that Calia was worth hating, during my hiatus.

But there’s a quest chain where the Forsaken

cleanse the city of the blight

that Calia is a key part of (did the chain to unlock some Hunter stuff), and from her part in that chain I liked her, and kinda rolled my eyes at the “we should just killer her immediately” guy freaking out about her being around.

E: I hate the new “must be on its own line” spoiler blur.

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And because she felt like she owned the forsaken for some reason

She really pushes the “they’re my people” bit a concerning amount for someone who has little to do with them

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