How Sylvanas loyalists think SL will end?

Hey remember the super lame N’zoth kill cutscene that put our character front and center? Well that’s what we get from comments like this!

Lore characters are cooler and more interesting than ours! Our toons are supposed to be random, anonymous shlubs. We’re like the footmen that we mass produced in WC3.

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Now that that’s all cleared up, I suppose a similarity could be drawn. But wouldn’t a better choice for the storyline be the Mantid Empress in Pandaria?

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mantid empress isn’t hot babe

“The Horde is nothing!” Shouted Sylvanas with a grin. “You are all nothing.” And Sylvanas grabbed the old soldier, and shoved him down into dirt. When she heard a small sound, like the coo of a dove.

She turned around fast, and saw a small Horde, little banner bae, who looked on in dismay. Who’d arced a brow at what she heard her say. She stared at Sylvanas and said; “Warchief why?”

But you know that old corpse was so smart and so slick, she thought up a lie, and she thought it up quick!

“Why my sweet little rot,” the fake Warchief lied.

“The horde is nothing without honor, and loyalty to die.”

“So i’m taking Saurfang back, to my workshop, my dear.”

“I’ll fix him up there,then bring him back here.”

And her fib fooled the corpse, then she patted her head, and she evaporated into smoke, and shot herself up.

In their cities she left nothing but fear and some nerves.
And the one speck of hope that she left by some pork.
Was even too small for an orc.
Then she did the same thing to the other Horde cities.
Leaving crumbs much too small for the other Horde committees.
It was a quarter past dawn, all the Horde still in bed.
All the horde still asnooze when she packed up and fled.
Three thousand feet up! On the side of the mountain.
She rode to the tiptop to hear the sad trumpets.
“Poohpooh to the Horde!” She was grumpily humming.
“They’re just waking up! I know what they’ll do!”
“Their mouths will hang open for a minute or two.”

“Then the Horde down in Hordeville will all cry BooHoo!”
“That’s a noise,” grinned Sylvanas, “That i simply must hear!”
So she paused. And Sylvanas put her hand to her ear.
And she did hear a sound rising over the snow.
It started out low. Then it started to grow.
But the sound wasn’t sad! Why, this sound sounded merry!
It couldn’t be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!
She stared down at Hordeville, the tall and the small,
Was singing! Without any hope at all!
She hadn’t stopped peace from coming! It CAME!
Somehow or other, it came just the same!
“It came without trees! It came on the breeze!”
“It came without catchups, foxes or lag!”
And she puzzled three hours, till her puzzler was sore.
Then Sylvanas thought of something she hadn’t before!
“Maybe, hope,” she thought, “is not something you buy from a store. Maybe it wasn’t roasted with night elves galore.”
“Maybe, hope, perhaps, means a little bit more.”

And what happened then? Well, in Hordville they say, Sylvanas’ cold heart jumped 100 degrees that day!
And the minute with her heart didn’t feel quite so tight.
She whizzed with her hope through the bright morning light.
And she brought back hope, and peace, and the food for a feast.
And she, she herself! sylvanas: Carved the roast beast!

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Hold on laz, we had illidan do it with the light, and people liked it so much we gonna make you do the same with NZoth to impress people you are “prepared”.

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As in, why Dr Seuss? Couldn’t you, shouldn’t you have chosen another author? Wouldn’t it, couldn’t it have been Steven King, who is notorious in Horror?

It’d better be thrall or Khadgar, MAYBE I’ll forgive them if it’s Genn or Tyrande :unamused:

It’s the appropriate reading level for WoW’s writing team.

Really, what I want most of all at the end of this is for sylvanas to be rejoined with the part of her being that Arthas didn’t restore in Quelthalas. That part of her that could know joy and compassion and most importantly: guilt.

I want her to realize all the pain and suffering she’s inflicted for her own callous gains and devolve into a perpetual state of self flaggelation without the capacity for shock so that she is intimately aware of each thing that happens to her as a fresh agony, tormenting herself in ways that should kill her but incapable of doing so since she’s already dead.

I want everyone to see her in this state, tearing and shredding at her own soul filled with self loathing and even those who hate her with a fury that blazes like the sun to be shocked by the sight of it, understanding that there is no punishment that they could concieve of that would be worse then what she is doing to herself for the rest of eternity.

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…and then Bobby steps out of the shower.
That’s the level of what you just outlined.
Skäl
:beer:

Do you remember Kerrigan?

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All this sounds like is an “opportunity” to see Sylvanas in her less-than-clothed state. I dare not say a certain acronym for reasons.

She wasn’t ever really that great at guilt, even when she was alive. She’s always been rather Machiavillian; the ends always justified her means. Dying didn’t change that about her; just what ends she was interested in.

“They merely need to delay them as we fortify the Sunwell’s defense,” she answered, her tone measured.
“They will die!”
“They are arrows in the quiver,” Sylvanas said. “They must be spent if we are to win this.”

I was rolling my eyes back in Wrath when they had her standing in the UC throne room in a bikini, so if your take away from this is that I have an SM kink you’re way off.

Reads more like her making a hard but rational choice as a general: to defend the sunwell at all costs, and that was something she was willing to die for.

I like to think its just another borrowed blizz tale and this time they are using the story of the man who captured death for the inspiration. It suits the story leading up to it and the motivations of sylvanas as a whole

So we agree that, as she saw it, the end (protecting the Sunwell) justified the means (leaving her rangers to die). Machiavellianism isn’t necessarily the trait you want from your ideal heroes but it’s an excellent one for a military commander to have. She made the logical choice without regret or hesitation, which is why I don’t think that she’d be terribly tormented by her own sense of guilt.

What she was after changed when she was raised but her core mentality did not. The biggest thing I could see her feeling guilty about was that she failed to protect Silvermoon.

I’d disagree; My suspicion is that being raised stripped sylvanas of her sense of guilt since having it would only make her a less efficient killing machine for arthas.

Further, there is nothing I’m aware of in Sylvanas’ past that would suggest that the ranger general would be able to stomach the carnage that she’s unleashed or a willingness to consign the souls of untold thousands to the maw.

And on that day my sub will end.

:cookie:

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I personally see her returning as Warchief which is her rightful place.

I see foreshadowing in BTS by Golden with Sylvanas leaving, a council forming, and an eventual return to dismantle the council.

I think it’s part of the reason a council formed, its interim in Blizzards mind and easier to move to the side to bring back the Dark Lady as opposed to if they had actually chosen another Warchief. It’s brilliant really on their part.

For the Dark Lady. ALWAYS!!!

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I have a good bet that it’ll be similar to Zendarin Windrunner (the first evil windrunner).