How premaders are similar to petty brats

[Bigbinkus-bleeding-hollow]

It’s pretty sad the lengths people go to just to abuse a video game. I always queue random solo. at certain times (usually 12am -6am EST for me) epic BG is not even an option. my team? a bunch of randoms running around like headless chickens typing “welp its over gg” and then leaving after first team fight and enemy team is more co-oridanited than all of the worlds militarys combined. its very interesting how it works. Im definitely in favor to end abusive player behavior tied to poorly designed matchmaking and stuff like this only makes the player participation worse and the queue times longer for everyone. every “bonus battleground” mode at all brackets feels terrible to queue as a solo compared to other popular multiplayer titles out there thats my main take.

[Icculus-norgannon]

@Zeezx-area-52

Hydra Premades wants 40 man premade queues against other premades. We really aren’t interested in farming PUGS. That said, since Legion dropped it had been close to impossible for Horde to be able to sync queue vs Alliance queue times. The Alliance queue times were 1-3 minutes vs Horde’s 15+ minute queues. Dragonflight brought perks to Alliance players that attracted a much larger number of players to Alliance resulting in dramatically reduced queue times for Horde. IMO Blizzard could fix the issue by reinstalling War Games but award honor, conquest, etc. where now there are ZERO rewards for War Games. Blizzard removed the link to War Games but you can still queue with the add on WarGameHelper. In WOD there were MANY Premade communities in game on both sides resulting in a robust Casual PVP participation. Now Blizzard has put ALL the focus on rated play that has proven HIGHLY unsatisfactory to the majority of PVPers, especially players new to PVP. That leaves PVP Communities at the mercy of 5 man parties vs 40 man premades. Blizzard has the algorithms to match premades NOW but refuse to create an environment for premades. That imo is an egregious error on Blizzard’s part. An error they consistently make. Blizzard’s learning curve on this subject is mind boggling. The Player advisory committee is woefully absent of veterans of the PVP community imo, resulting in “Yes men” vs relevant advice.

Such balogna. You Dodged other premades all the time…No one was allowed to enter a BG without you or Yagga “checking it out” first. Also, you and Yagga refused to wargame SPM…straight up refused. A lot of us wanted to do it, but nope, that would take actual effort on your part.

And…at the start of Legion, que times were long for Horde, yes, but the main complaint was that they buffed the guards in AV and it was way harder to corral folks into the cave…on top of that you and Yagga realized that you could just go into Tol Barad instances over and over and farm honor by standing around and doing nothing. So that was the first however many weeks of Legion. No more AV, just using an expliot to farm honor. It was so effing lame. A lot of people split because they actually wanted to play the game as opposed to exploiting.

[Icculus-norgannon]

@Enfers-stormrage

@Alphôn-bleeding-hollow

I’m confused here, are you also insulting yourself and the guild you’re in?

People always bring that up but I’ve never run with one of their premades they just invited me and I accepted it cause why not

I’m confused…if you hate premades, why are you joining premades??

I mean if you’re going to preach here on the forums about how bad they are, at least walk the walk.

[Holycow-uldaman]

@Raistmajere-dawnbringer

I can’t hate them, they were just misguided.

At least some of them can admit it’s wrong, but it’s an occasional guilty pleasure.

[Doroz-moonrunner]

@Akatsüki-stormrage

It’s amazing people actually believe the developers care

They care about getting a paycheck, which depends on people playing their game.

It’s a balance, between making hardcore players happy AND casual players happy. It’s not like hardcore players pay more than casual players do. If they did, then I would understand.

[Enfers-stormrage]

@Icculus-norgannon

if you hate premades, why are you joining premades

@Enfers-stormrage

I’ve never run with one of their premades they just invited me and I accepted it

Accepted means I just joined the guild not accepted a invite to a premade