Calm down granny. Not saying they’re legally guilty of plagiarism. They literally stole the magic schools though. Cope.
The biggest story line in the history of the game is turning the Arthurian legend on it’s head with the rise and fall of Arthas so I’d say a lot. The Orcs more inspired by Warhammer Orcs than Tolkien, at least originally. Then there are all of the pop culture references. Harrison Jones is Harrison Ford and Indiana Jones. Hemet Nessingwary is Earnest Hemingway. You have Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze Point Break references. There are a lot more.
That’s a different context of the word power. It is used in WoW for a talent.
There’s a difference between references and for example, taking the whole schools.
Can you explain, precisely, how the schools of Arcane magic aren’t ripped off?
Where is the Schools of Magic accusation coming from? WoW is distinct from Forgotten Realms in that regard. I know the RPG did, but that was a d20 work.
Not really.
It’s the shadowfell meets dark powers.
Outland is planescape.
Magic schools were a thing before Rowling as well. At most they stole from a thief.
About the only thing that’s really different is Quidditch.
The schools in the Dalaran books are almost entirely the same as the schools I linked from Forgotten Realms.
Ah. Yeah, I either didn’t do that achievement or memory holed it. I don’t recall it ever coming up directly in-game when I leveled a mage alt, but I’ve not touched that toon much since Legion.
Small quibble, but the schools are from D&D and not Forgotten Realms specifically.
Ripped off of what?
Here’s some news for you. No one owns an idea. The only thing you can own is an expression of it.
And again…Schools of Magic aren’t unique to Azeroth, nor to Hogwarts, Gygax and company were using them all the way back to D&D… and he ripped those off from Jack Vance. And Vance himself never had any issue with it, because it wasn’t original for him either.
However in every single case, the expressions are different. And that’s the thing… it’s the expressions that are owned, not the ideas expressed. To further distance themselves from Hasbro, Paizo recently junked the names of the schools of magic that it inherited from the Open Gaming License material, again just in case Hasbro tries to yank the OGL again.
warhammer rip off
Planescape is 17 Outer Planes each representing an alignment on the Great Wheel.
Each except for Limbo and Mechanus has more than one Infinitely Vast Layer each containing multiple Realms that are almost but not quite Infinitely Vast Worlds!
Mount Celestia’s Lunia which always has a Moonlit Starlit Sky everywhere for instance has an Infinitely Vast Moonlit Starlit Sea of Holy Water with an Infinitely Vast Sea Elven Realm and Infinitely Vast Islands with the Infinitely Vast Mainland having multiple Infinitely Vast Realms.
The Near Infinitely Vast Realms within the actually Infinitely Vast Layer Lunia includes Heart’s Faith(Lunia’s Greatest City which is Arabian-Egyptian in Aesthetic while having Lamp Posts), Nemmiron(also Arabian-Egyptian), Soul’s Desire(unknown in nature as it’s neither tied to a God due to being a Gatetown like Heart’s Faith and Nemmiron nor does it have Official Art like those 2 do), Tyr’s Court(Norse Realm), Nectar of Life(Indian Realm dedicated to Hinduism and Buddhism) and the 8 Happinesses(Feudal Japanese Realm).
If Hasbro were to make a MoonDreamers G2 they could easily make it a Multiverse Story in DnD’s Lunia where all the Moon-themed Characters from MoonDreamers(just Celeste and Moondust honestly) and MLP(Moondancer, Princess Serena, Princess Luna, Trixie Lulamoon, Izzy Moonbow and Sugar Moonlight) have different versions of themselves in each Realm which would each be considered their own universes that can be traveled between through Belief and focusing on the destination!
Ah but I digress… World of WarCraft does not have a Planescape as none of the Realms of the Shadowlands are shown to be near Infinitely Vast due to being closer to Ravenloft.
Shadowlands aren’t an “Outer Plane” in Warcraft, though. It and the Emerald Dream are depicted as Reality adjacent realms, and very nearly a 1:1 mirror of the Feywild and Shadowfell. Both are surrounded by Elemental Planes.
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What? That isn’t even true. Auriel is as close to good guy coded as you can possibly get.
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She’s sympathetic, but she’s no Tyrael. And she does have an el suffix so I’ll acknowledge the correction though.
tfw you know almost nothing about diablo
it’s like i can learn something new
do devils ever meaningfully lose in diablo
it seems like they autowin everything that’s important from an outsider’s perspective.
If it was a Warhammer rip off your starting classes would be glorious things like Rat Catcher and you wouldn’t have a choice of class, it would be randomly rolled each time you made a new character. (Which is how I wound up playing a Rat Catcher who eventually made to Rogue and some other class I can’t recall right now.
That’s nice but
If I recall correctly, she was the one who mostly ardently spoke out in defense of Sanctuary and it’s peoples in the aftermath of the Sin War. Imperius wanted to eradicate all of humanity, and Malthael was indifferent. Tyrael’s vote is what guaranteed humanity’s existence, but Auriel was the one who pushed for them.
Anyways, that was a bit off topic.
Warcraft is a very old intellectual property, and it’s always been inspired by other works. That’s how art is. A rip off would be if Benedictus delivered his little speech while having a wand duel with Anduin while fighting over a McGuffin that gives Eternal Youth. In this case, Benedictus dropped a line referencing his morality/ideology.
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There’s a character in The Wheel of Time named Liandrin.
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What schools are you referring to? If you’re referring to things such as Tranmutation, Abjuration, etc. again those are exteremely generic names that predate any use in the published D+D world books going at least as far back as Jack Vance. Ars Magica for example uses the same names, but in Latin.
The game draws heavily from D20 tropes, but the serial numbers are extremely filed off.