https: //luduslabs. org/articles/pvp-participation-month-1-shadowlands
If you compare these stats to previous seasons, SL beats it out every single time.
I will be but maybe come back for rank 1 push at the end of the season.
TBC was my favorite xpac and I still donāt go back.
Retail for meā¦always and forever -Klaus
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Not enough information to answer this definitively yetā¦ Definitely leaning that way heavily as of now though.
Yeah and then you realize itās because PvEārs are forced to PvP for gear instead of because the PvP is actually tolerable (which it is not).
This is coercion, not motivation.
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You can call it whatever you want, but all I see I profit which is more important than anything else 
TBC arena and pvp gameplay is just way more fun. Hopefully blizzcon supports tbc arena tournaments, i also donāt see any serious streamer playing SL arena over tbc, esp since ppl like cdew, snutz and vanguard got glad in tbc so they arenāt new at all to the expansion. I also miss caring about 2ās and 5ās ;(.
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Important to remember that TBC arena was not balanced at all.
Was a ton more fun than Shadowlandsā¦ But still not balanced.
TBC was better in pretty much every way, thoughā¦ because it wasnāt without its weaknesses, but all those weaknesses still exist in the current game along with much more.
Not balanced how? every class and spec(except prot specs) had a glad capable comp. Thatās good enough for me.
Hunters were virtually nonexistent in 3v3.
Warriors, locks, and druids were in their own league and the comp with anything else that could contest any of these was RMP.
2v2 was just Drain Wars or rsham warrior trying to RNG someone to death with 5% uptime.
5v5 was fun and interesting, maybe some more ābalanceā there but nobody ever took it seriously to begin with so hard to say.
Fair enough.
I wish I hadnāt already done classic/BC, cuz I would honestly have a ton more fun on the classic servers if I hadnāt already done all that content when it was new
Just because you never took it seriously, doesnāt mean nobody did. I took it seriously and so did many other teams. 2400+ 5v5 in wotlk was one of the most fun times iāve ever had in arenas, and it was anything but a gib fest when facing the same mmr team. If you can get glad and gear from it, people will take it serious. I personally think 2ās is more of a joke than 5ās.
I agree.
But I was still in that same group without taking it seriously at all, which tells me it probably wasnāt very competitive.
This is a fair opinion TBHā¦ 2v2 definitely more rock paper scissors than 5v5; 5v5 more dynamic, but by that same logic we could also argue that RBGs are more skillful than 3v3 or 5v5 for the same reasons. Thereās definitely a sweet-spot and itās a matter of opinion where that lies, I suppose.
The thing with that is that in rbgās you arenāt worried about dying like in an arena match(because you can rez), itās not fair to compare the 2.
Objective vs Deathmatch.
A fair point, again.
But we could imagine a hypothetical 10v10 arena and consider the same comparison still and the point remains.
Honestlyā¦ a 10v10 Team Deathmatch battleground sounds fun as hell now that I think about it, with or without respawns (probably better without)ā¦ Wonder why they never put that in (and just mandate 2-3 healers per team, ofc)
haha that would be a complete cluster fk. 5v5 was the sweet spot imo. Imagine 7 pom pyro mages that bursted a single target? itās an instant 1 shot idc how many healers you have.
A lot of people feel this way about 5v5. And it was a lot of fun. Clusterf*** isnāt necessarily a bad thing.
5 has the same outcome. This was also a thing with Elemental Mastery + Chain Lightning in 5v5 if I remember correctly.
I respect your opinion.
Pardon me, but what are you using to derive this conclusion? The data makes no mention of this.
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Iām afraid that Blizzard will repeat the mistake they made with SL release/Naxx, and release TBC and 9.1 at practically the exact same time, so the two games just cannibalize each other instead of giving us two distinct things to do at different times.
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Lol agreed that guy is an absolute troll.