How is the game working withou a SSD?

yes but until ssd approach hdd levels of affordibility im sticking with good old hdd’s. storage wise they cost 2-3 times as much per gigabyte.i can get a 3tb internal storage for the same price as a 1tb internal ssd.

An ssd is 1000% worth the money. I still have a couple large hdd’s for media but the huge QoL from an ssd for the OS and games is amazing.

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I have the Samsung 870 SSD and the Samsung 970 M2. Because I had to do some swapping with a laptop trying to upgrade the M2 drive in the system. I ended up with an extra 870 SSD. Plugged into the same system, the M2 is nearly twice as fast as the SSD.

Internally, the 870 and 970 are probably nearly identical, but because of how the SSD connects to the system, it’s not as fast. It’s down to the specs of the connection. M2 + NVMe is the fastest thing you can connect to a computer (right now), and it takes a specific M2 connection. It’s not just an “M2”.

you sound like you work for blizzard. ion is that you?

I know. It’s an nvme specific socket with only 1 notch.
This is why I have said from the start your system needs to support it.

Because the mechanical HDD and and SSD do the same thing, but the SSD has exponentially faster access times, so the content will load faster.

Lol, you’re giving me a lot of credit for following a thread inside a thread inside this topic. I have no idea what you posted prior to the post I replied to. :slight_smile:

No problems here with a regular HDD (WD Velociraptor).
I don’t trust SSDs yet.
What is more irritating and very slow is the queue to log into Area52.

I don’t have a SSD; my load times are fine & my gaming is not adversely affected, so far as I can tell. Maybe I’ll change my mind when my new PC arrives on Tuesday.

1/2 decent internet ( 300 Mb/s and running wired) and a SATA SSD and I get almost no load times anywhere so far.

Load times are actually faster than BFA by atleast half and my HDD is like 4 years old.

The very first m.2 was iffy and would overheat sitting under the gpu as mobo’s didn’t have the cooling.

I had a Samsung 950 NVMe PCIe M.2 256GB 4 years ago and wasn’t the first type yet it blew one day on bootup and was 1.5 years into a 2 year warranty yet I would never send in as it contained my financials on the drive inside a locked folder but just can’t risk sending in for warranty.

The ssd’s though are slower but better as the mounting location.

Windows10 on its own 120gb ssd
Wow on another.
Have good ram and don’t install bloatware.

I got good load times on my HDD and was happy with it for many many years until I switched to an SSD (then a second one as first was getting to full, then third one as second was getting too full) and the difference was considerable.

I mean, that’s not true. A midrange 10th generation Intel I7 still has a max of 16 PCIe lanes. So, by using a NVMe your GPU is cut to using only 8 lanes of the CPU, while your NVMes uses the other 8 (it’s an adapter that plugs into a secondary x16 PCIe slot). But, that is only if your NVMe is using your CPU’s PCIe lanes which it probably isn’t.

The performance you get is more dependent on the MoBo. For instance, there are boards with an m.2 M-key slot, that are designed to accept SATA, or an older gen of PCIe x2. Getting an NVMe for a board like this is a waste of money because the performance will be capped at the bus speed it was designed for even though you can plug the NVMe SSD into the slot and it works.

Unless you’ve bought or built a PC with a new MoBo in the last 5 years you probably can’t take advantage of a NVMe.

Correct but your video card also does not need 16x speeds. It’s more that you have 8 lanes for your gpu, and 8 for your nvme drive and any other pcie cards you have.

Also if you have an nvme ssd it uses pcie lanes, that is literally what they are. You may be thinking of M.2 sata drives which have a slightly different socket.

I switched to my SSD as well before the changes hit, and the loads are long af, I can’t imagine how bad it is with a HDD.

I play on a Mac and a PC both with SSDs. Not played with an HDD since 2016. It has to be unbearably slow.

M.2 Sockets can come in 3 configuration types, M-key, B-key, and M+B key. An M.2 Socket that does not specifically support NVMe can still be socketed with an NVMe if the socket supports an M-key configuration.

If the NVMe works, which it may or may not, then its transfer speeds will be capped.

I got a SSD, but the game isn’t installed to it so I actually don’t know if games not installed to the SSD benefit from it. But my SSD is only 110gb so it can’t barely put any games on it and the vast majority of space is taking up by the OS.

If games need to be installed to an SSD to actually take advantage of them, dunno how one would fit so many games onto them xD SSDs are smaller than hard drives, except the extremely high end overly expensive ones that are 1tb+ and even then wow is 100+gb, and cyberpunk will be nearly 100gb…thats still not very many games that would fit on a SSD with how big games are.

But maybe games dont need to be on an SSD to take advantage of them, dunno. If so, maybe that is why WoW loads fast for me. or maybe I think it loads fast…

The answer to this is no.