How Is Paladin In Phase 0-1 Truthfully?

I was wanting to go Paladin tomorrow with the start of Fresh but I just realized the honor system/bgs wont be coming out until Phase 2 which as far as I know they’ve only said it’d be coming out around “late winter”, which could be February or March for all I know. So what I wanna know is for those of you who did do Paladin during 2019 fresh, what was it like prior to MC/BG’s?

I mainly wanna focus on PvP, but heard Ret Paladin doesn’t even begin to become somewhat viable in PvP until like late MC/R13. If I wanna focus on Ret PvP do I have to just like bite the bullet and go Healbot throughout P1? I’m not looking for troll lulcow replies I’m looking for genuine feedback.

They are perfectly fine in PvP, just very boring.

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Ret is atrociously bad in classic. Its fairly easy leveling tho.

I mean during the P0-P1 timeframe when most classes are struggling to get good gear.

Answer remains the same, in all scenarios.

I heard it actually comes online pretty well at some point, but for PvE I hear that’s not until around T0.5 or something like that.

Pve ret won’t be good till Burning crusade. I think they might even be worse than moonkins(laser chickens atleast got sass).

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Pretty good healer in pvp.

In raids you’ll mostly be a cleanse bot and casting one heal spell when not cleansing. They’ll love you for the buffs though. 3 paladins = 3 blessings and 3 auras.

In 5 mans it gets depressing. Cant DPS. Cant really tank. Can’t really heal.

Paladins got their mojo in TBC. Just in time for Horde to get them haha.

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Auto attack simulator. It’s really not a fun experience unless you’re fighting another player.

PvE wise, you get forced to play a healer, no other way you’re really viable.

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Just roll Paladin if you’re dedicated to it. The Reck Bomb will speak for itself.

Actually I’ve tanked as Prot in leveling dungeons its entirely possible. Especially if most the mobs are green. And since we have dual spec now, we can switch back to Ret while questing

I might make a Paladin alt but I don’t know. I really don’t want to deal with Alliance problems on a PvP server for a year. (And there’s only one server). I’ll just wait for BE.

Ret isnt really good in Classic WoW. TBC is better but not by much. Then in Wrath Ret is a beast. In raids, you do less than 25% of a warriors damage. In PvP, you will have limited success.

There is always the one ret in the guild that gets the Sulfuras. You just have to hope RNG is on your side and it drops ASAP.

Dual spec isn’t coming with the launch of the servers. The most Blizzard has said is “At a later date”. So most likely not until P1, or more realistically since you don’t really NEED two separate specs until P2 when PvP comes out since PvP and PvE are often times wildly different builds, I’d imagine it wont come out until P2.

It will come with the raids most likely.

PvP wise ret is more than fine for all phases honestly. Can go reck bomb for free kills in all of them too.
PvE its simple horrendously terrible.

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Idk but i’m going to go spelladin in tbc so i’m healing for for 12 months for that…

but dual spec may make it better since I can get farming gear and do some aoe dungeon grinding

unless i spin a wheel and it tells me to go druid instead… i still dont know what i’m playing…

Leveling is auto attack simulator.

Raiding is healing.

Pvp is good especially if you can get a good weapon

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Ret in great gear can blow people up in an HoJ. Its sustained damage is terrible and it has mana issues trying to do sustained damage.

There is no such thing as a “Ret Paladin” in Classic. There are Paladins, a defensive support class that has incredibly strong utility/buffs/healing potential. The talent trees accentuate the strengths of the class further by either offering more support potential or self sustain utility be it defensive (Protection) or offensive (Retribution).
If you want to play a class that uses a 2 handed weapon, wears plate and hits stuff very hard, you have that in the Warrior class. The trade off is that the Warrior relies extremely heavily on the support of other classes to shine and even to some extent, function. Luckily, those classes exist - the Paladin, Druid and Priest.
Hope that helps!

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