How I feel they destroyed nascent void elves and culture

I don’t think you are being laughed at but your point of view is too narrowed and biased to see the bigger picture.

  • High Elves were the original request
  • Blizzard denies it and reacts with a jerk idea: Void Elves
  • Obviously, the High Elf-players are going to be upset about this
  • A culture war ensures for many years
  • Blizzard realized they made a big mistake, with the topic simply not dying after 5 (!) years of constant presence. They release High Elves as a subrace for the Void Elves
  • It has been pointed out for years now that Void Elves have no actual lore and have also been abandoned during the finale of 8.2/3, the void storyline. They failed so far, that’s a fact.
  • Void Elves are upset about the overall situation, blaming High Elvers although they are the “original Alliance requester”, completely ignoring the fact

If you want to blame someone, blame Blizzard in a) not giving the Alliance High Elves first and b) in not developing an organic storyline involving the Alliance elf-groups only

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This a back handed “make high elves playable” topic? It smells like a “make high elves playable” topic.

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I personally didn’t care about the blue eyes, I wanted red. But Belves that did want blue have nothing to do with what happened to Velves, nor them not doing Helves as their own race.

Velves already had blue eyes and when they gave out the new shade of blues to everyone on accident, they decided to keep it.

Well there’s your first mistake.

barely a faction, their whole population fit in a single small building.

100% Blood Elves.

Here’s the thing, Void Elves are Blood Elves, and Blood Elves are High Elves, Meaning Void Elves are High Elves, So your problem with them is just you projecting your own RP onto other people.

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Most people playing void elves on moonguard don’t even see themselves as void elves (at least its pretty obvious just running around stormwind for 10 minutes with TRP addon, there is a ton of high elves and occasionally half-void/high elves running around, saw one actual void elf).

This makes sense in lore actually because in lore there is only actually a handful of void elves, so you wouldn’t see them very often, it actually be a rarity.

The idea was… ‘Fine.’

By, ‘fine,’ I mean to say the general basis of the idea, of a race that seeks to master the powers of the Void and wield it for good, to demonstrate it’s not a taboo power but rather just a power. That idea was fine.

Then Blizzard deviated hard on that idea in several ways. Namely, the race they chose for this. Until Alleria, we’d never seen ANY Thalassian elves (that weren’t raid bosses) whom wielded the Void, or even showed much interest in it. Umbric and his followers didn’t exist until their own recruitment scenario, and they didn’t exist as, “Void Elves,” until the last five minutes of it. All of this was a HUGE mistake.

If, ‘Void Elves,’ were supposed to exist, we should have seen them being seeded expansions ahead of their actual reveal. We could’ve seen Umbric and his followers as far back as Mists of Pandaria, taking an interest in the Sha, and through that, the power of the Void. We could’ve seen them in Warlords of Draenor investigating the Shadowmoon Orcs, finding flaws in their work, and also filling in gaps in their own knowledge. We should have seen them in Legion, if not in the Priest Class Hall campaign, then at LEAST as daily quest givers around the Broken Isles, dealing with void-related threats.

During all of that, we could’ve seen a story being told, seen Rommath/Lor’themar banish them from Quel’Thalas, seen them become something of a neutral group growing increasingly disenfranchised with the Horde and its leadership, increasingly wary of their powers being used by the Horde for evil. “You did well, Champion, but I’ll have that artifact back now. There are those within the Horde whom would gladly steal it from you and abuse it’s power.” Something like that at the end of a daily quest.

But, we had NONE of that. Of course, none of it would have even been necessary if Blizzard had chosen a race ALREADY knee-deep in the Void to start with. Ethereals, Krokuul, Arrakoa, etc… plenty of options for Void races. But, they went with elves, and did no seeding, world building, or foreshadowing.

In this, the idea was flawed at conception, BUT, that COULD have been resolved by properly developing the Void Elves as a race over the course of an expansion or two. Except Blizzard didn’t do that. The Void Elves only ever showed up in BFA to fight the Horde, and were left out of every Void-related storyline the expansion had. I think this shows us what the real purpose of the Void Elves were: to give Horde players a race they could feel really good about killing on the Alliance.

This is passing over other glaring issues, such as the Void being nothing more than purple flavored arcane magic for all the difference it has from what we’ve seen mages doing. Or, the fact that the Void Elf heritage armor looks like Dreadlord armor they stumbled upon in the rift and painted purple; it doesn’t look remotely elven.

I think its perfectly reasonable to like the concept Void Elves are supposed to stand for. That said, I do think people who praise them are either in general insincere, or doing themselves a disservice, because they DESERVE better from Blizzard than what we were given.

To summarize: If this is what Blizzard always intended to give us with Void Elves, then they should have just added High Elves instead.

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The problem is, Void Elves were just pulled out of thin air. In fact, even WORSE than that, their introduction actually undermined a lot of what made the Blood Elves so unique in the first place, that THEY were the ones who were “playing with fire” (often, quite literally) when they started courting the same powers used by the Burning Legion.

What actually would have made FAR more sense, is if they said “the Farstriders and High Elves that accompanied Alleria through the Dark Portal way back in the day, have now come back to Azeroth and still see themselves as members of the Alliance”.

That would have not only been simpler, but also would’ve allowed for some FAR more interesting commentary on different belief structures.

You’d have had these “High Elf” veterans looking around and saying “why have the members of my nation abandoned everything we once stood for?”, while Blood Elves would be thinking “YOU guys weren’t here, you didn’t live through all the atrocities we’ve had to endure since you left, you don’t understand that we HAD to make these choices for survival”.

Honestly, it would be super interesting stuff.

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Yup. Blizzard could have just released High Elves. It was that simple, they could have just put the whole thing to bed with High Elves, but Ion Hazzikostas had to be a cheeky bugger.

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If you want to play a void elf who is purple or grey with glowing tentacles you can. Nothing is stopping you.

But as far as the story line goes it’s clear that there are High Elves like Alleria who became a Void Elf who are not blue but only take on shadow form under certain circumstances.

So you get to be what you want. It seems that what you are saying is that you don’t like the idea that other players can set their Void Elves up the way they want.

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Not saying that I disagree, but Stormwind probably smells like sewage and horses.

Eh. You have a valid issue. There were other ways to solve this issue. But actually listening and acting on feedback from the community is nothing that we should ever knock Blizzard for.

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What culture was there to destroy?

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Void elves were a mistake to start with we had Night elves and that was enough, did not need more elf races. Just like on horde how blood elfs are the most played races, and now voidelves are already ahead of several alliance races.

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I hate Elves. Blood Elves, specifically. But I’m not going to bemoan decisions that a clear majority enjoy.

I just wish that those of us with less “traditional” taste would get thrown a few more bones.

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I didn’t have top play with blood elves in my dungeons now I have to play with a ton of them due to cross faction. If they are horde I rather see a tauren or something that isn’t a elf in the group.

Tuskarr and Furlbolg please.

Theres nothing wrong if they dont either. You dont have to change yours. Options are great

Ion already said no Allied Races are currently planned.

They wouldn’t have added those two as allies even if they planned to add races, unfortunately.

Maybe new Blizzard would.

I mean, they wouldn’t add Ogres because, “lol cant make their ladies hot!!!”

New Blizzard might take up developing new non-traditional playable races, even if they can’t imagine the females in a skimpy cosplay at Blizzcon.

But it won’t be anytime soon.