How good would a 0.0 second GCD Single-Button Rotation delay be?

Don’t use chatgpt for answers. Right now, if I stop using shortcuts, the payoff is actually in sight, and worth it.

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Shortcuts are great because they streamline tasks, save time, and reduce unnecessary effort—letting you focus on the things that actually matter. Whether it’s in gaming, work, or daily life, here’s why shortcuts can be a game-changer:

  • Efficiency Boost – Cutting out extra steps lets you get things done faster and smoother. Why take the long way when there’s a smarter option?
  • Mental Load Reduction – Automating or simplifying repetitive tasks frees up brainpower for bigger, more important decisions.
  • Accessibility and Convenience – Not everyone has the time or ability to master every detail; shortcuts help level the playing field.
  • More Focus on Strategy – In gaming, work, or problem-solving, shortcuts can free you up to concentrate on deeper, high-level thinking rather than getting stuck in the grind.
  • They’re Just Smart – If a shortcut lets you achieve the same result with less effort, why wouldn’t you take it? Work smarter, not harder.

The problem is that I find this usually doesn’t happen. I’ve mentored Hekili users before and I find that instead of establishing a solid baseline, Hekili instead just teaches them bad habits that we need to unlearn before actually teaching them the fundamentals of their spec. OBR I see being an even greater obstacle because you don’t even learn to differentiate your skills. It doesn’t teach you anything, just delays how far you can progress before you hit the wall that requires you to learn how your spells actually interact.

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Okay Faux was right. This is some chatGPT-posting if I’ve ever seen it. Maybe rely on those shortcuts a little less? I was hoping for your thoughts, not chatGPT’s.

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Just personal opinion. OBR should be good up through delves, heroic dungeons, LFR. This lets people using it as an accessibility feature see all the story content at least.

By the time you move into Normal raiding the game should at least try to encourage you to move to using the rotation assistant so you can actually start learning to do the rotation yourself (hopefully). By the time you move into heroic raiding the rotation assistant should be of pretty limited use.

If mythic raiders are using any of these, I’d say they are way too strong.

Did you really use chat gpt to explain shortcuts. Please be serious

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Big time, he loves the attention. ( for context here is a few quotes)

Does it actually, or are the simmers being generous by assuming someone using OBR is also using major CDs/pots/trinkets perfectly?

I don’t know what you’re trying to say here.

You take the right talents to minimize what you’re missing out on.

/cast Ice Lance
/cast Ice Lance
/cast Ice Lance
/cast Ice Lance
/cast Ice Lance
/cast Ice Lance

Ret paladin is unique that none of its rotational spells are missing from the OBR apl. They play a talent that makes wake of ashes cast wings for you.

Most specs need to press their CDs but outside of that OBR handles things well. And a few are too nuanced / their APL is too bad currently for good results. I expect APLs to be tweaked though as the ptr goes on. They’re plain as day in spell data, you can look at them yourself, but also for the case of Ret you can tell by playing it on ptr it is pretty good.

It’s times like these I really wish I was a fly on the wall at the Blizzard offices. I have zero doubts that they’re reading this thread - there’s no way they’re not keeping their finger on the pulse of the community for a feature like this. And I really REALLY want them to opine on some of this stuff.

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At the very least I would like them to give us an idea of how optimal both the OBR and the assistant are meant to be and at what levels of content they are intended to be useful for.

Without a frame of reference for how good they both are supposed to be it is hard to draw any conclusions or comparisons.

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They know they’re going to make a bunch of people mad if they tell us.

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Well a bunch of people get mad no matter what. :joy: At least if they said “this is what we are aiming for” people could have a more focused discussion about it.

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They want your anger directed at the captive audience of other players. If they allowed a focused discussion then anger would end up directed where it should be: at them.

This method keeps the masses arguing with each other and using thought-terminating labels like “ableist” to shut down the conversation. Divide and conquer works wonders.

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Yep. 9 times out of 10 Blizz ignores any and all feedback anyway. 10 out of 10 when that feedback comes from their own forums and PTR. :rofl:

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