How Fun Is It To Play Shadowlands?

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BFA was more fun is my initial impression.

Was waaay easier to maintain a couple alts to a somewhat competitive iLvL, and loot drops were abundant. I would say that’s my main gripe.

BFA also had more activities/content for the “solo” casual players, whereas Shadowlands has a heavy heavy emphasis on playing with premade groups.

Of course, the expansion is still fairly new so I’ll reserve final judgment until we hear what’s coming for 9.2

9.1 appears to be light on new content other than the new dungeon, they seem to just be doubling down on the existing 9.0 stuff (more Torghast, more Covenant-gating, etc).

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No? They are nothing alike at all. Which azerite works as boneflesh works and its soulbinds? or the execute one? Condescenting azerite? If you try too hard you can imagine DoS to be something like the teleport azerite one, but the azerite one didnt CC or gave you a shield or has two ast times or anything, it also had no cast time.

Needless to say convenant abilities also have nothing alike it.

No conduit gives you a passive damage that plays for you, they increase your skill damage, absorbtion or tiem its up, They mostly act as glyphs used to.
So thats not truth at all, no conduit works like the knife, gutripper or others that could explode to be by over 50% of your dps/healing.
You have leggos that do work some azerite bonus(or legion leggos), but even though the effect is the same leggos acquisition works very differently and are way less rng and more acessible than azerite and legion leggos.
Or you gonna say they are exactly like legion because they are orange?

I don’t understand it. How did you came up with this one? I mean, i suppose because your damage gets too high? thats it?
Corruptions increased your secondary stats across the game soo because anima also does that for the thorgast run then its the same?
sorry but you went way, wayyy overboard now.
It is crystal clear they aren’t anything remotely close to it.

They are vastly different though.
Factually.
I asked sincerily you could have answered… sincerily, not trolling. I literally spent most time trying to understand how you came up with it than to answer. And i hope it was trolling tbh, going bananas on super relativism isn’t healthy. Orange and pineapples arent the same because they are fruits you know lol.

Oh well here is one for the try.
:cookie:

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SL is pretty fun on the first character. I imagine if one started early in expansion, it could be even pretty fun in PvP. But

The worst part of SL for me is lack of catch up systems for alts. It’s very hard to have PvP alts in particular. Legendary grind is also draining to do in more than 1-2 characters, and they feel pretty mandatory to ignore.

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BFA had much better gear catch-up for alts.

For PvP (specifically), conquest points literally fell from the sky :rofl:

You could also spam PvP islands for free conquest points regardless of win/loss. You were caught up in no time.

And even the unranked conquest gear went up to Heroic iLvL (460), so at most you would be at a 15 iLvL deficit versus more geared players.

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I’ve spent more time reposting stuff on AH this year than anything in SL. Just can’t find a class I find fun and want to invest time into and SL just has lots of things that find it hard for me to ‘care about’ enough to bother w/ the ruined WQ system, bothering with pugs and it’s environment, and or the awful zone maw or torghast.

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This has to be the worst expansion of all time.

There is no alli horde tension, scummy alli walk freely about in the very poorly and boring round city

Quest have no reason to do them an just suck

Gearing is abysmal

World design looks nice buts the fact its tiny unconnected daze zones has to be the worst design decision ever… there is no world exploring

Thorgast i actually like but there is no challenge it just shows its a game for kids, like raiding.

Classes are broken. Pugging sucks unless you play a meta class then post as a mage and say how easy it was to pug your 15s

Myths plus was fun in bfa now its just a kite a bunch of every mob is a miniboss mechanic pulls as fast as you can and if your not gonna time someone bails and trashes the run… this could be done with friends but 3 out of 5 quit after just playing the poorly scripted intro in the maw you r forced to endur.

Low keys r about the only real fun…

There r no real ways to gear your toon other than myth raids which is a life fail or pvp or the weekly you get 1 piece of gear chest cause crap does not drop in dungeons now system

They have destroyed the connection to the past expansions with removals of old potions and such even going back to the portal hubs which are nice - there was no reason to get rid of all the world hops here and there people used for farming which was a huge part of the game and for me one of the things that kept me interested in it… i play and pay less than i ever did … current dev team just sucks.

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It’s the worst expac I’ve played (MoP baby). There is absolutely no reason for a non-WoW-addict to play this expac. I have to go log in now to avoid withdrawal. I’m starting to twitch.

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Not trolling at all, they are similar rental power systems involving RNG and grinding. That you choose not to see the similarity is on you, not me.

Anyway, have a good day!

:cookie:

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For me right now I’d give it a 6 and hopfully with some changes that number climbs up.

Things i like that standout are the upgradeable gear through progression. But for a casual like me, its also limited me and maybe handicapped me a bit in rbg’s and lfr’s. We’ll see how the changes pan out in next patch.

The areas are all really nice. The music is good as always.

I love that i can lvl my alts with questing including world quests and skip the story lines.

The first raid is really good (ive only done lfr) and the dungeons are really good imo

I really like torghast, but the rewards makes it unfun after a bit. Some changes could really turn this place into a major content for a casual like me.

Things i dont like are the pvp in rbg’s is still one sided and should be addressed.

The gear ilvls seem so out of wack and its harder/slower to gear up.

I don’t like that the areas are all seperate. At least their will be a portal from the main city to your sanctum in next patch.

Dont like the lack of world quests. Really liked the last two xpacks when it came to world qiests. Hopefully this will change

The areas seem smaller then previous xpacks and without flying two areas really suck to navigate through

Keep in mind im a casual player now, so things i like and hate are probably much different then others.

Breaks over, so this ends my reply. Im sure I’m leaving somethings out, but for now its a 6/10

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I give it a 4.

There’s enough to do as a habit, but I really don’t look forward to a single thing anymore. I am constantly baffled at the decisions made by the company.

I really do not “get” the point of WoW right now. Looking forward to 9.1, it’s more of the same exact crap that has made so many players angry.

I just don’t get it.

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I would go like a 6 or 7, but they really messed up PvE gearing and there is no excuse for the patch not to be out already. Its sad they messed up this bad on an otherwise good expansion.

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1 that is how much fun it is.

I log on to do the command table and log off.

/# Stay Safe, Stay Healthy

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It started around an 8 for me, but it went down real fast from there:

  • terrible class design and balance -2
  • terrible pvp balancing -1
  • annoying new m+ affixes -1
  • unrewarding raid/m+ gearing -1
  • the vault continues to be a horrible rng fest -1
  • unusually buggy m+/raid experience -1
  • being locked into covenant power -1
  • conduit energy limiting choice and experimentation -1
  • the world being the least important/rewarding part of World of Warcraft -1
  • no soul ash catchup -1
  • new valor system is far too expensive/limiting -1

Well you can do the math there.
I just raid log now and maybe do one 15 per week.

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SL is 8 on me right now. 9.0 is better than BFA 8.0. BFA 8.0 is 6 to me and SL is really way better.

Gearing is straightforward. You level up to max level. Then do Heroic 5-man. Then do Mythic 0. Then start climbing to M+. You could also progress thru Raid… there is Normal, then Heroic and then Mythic Raiding. Of course, gearing up is harder when you are near the ceiling ilevel. And I understand that Heroic Raiding and M+15 dont have the best loots as they are just stepping stones toward the hardest WoW content which is Mythic Raiding.

Weekly Vault is forgiving as it gives Mythic Raid quality loots. Weekly cache before was lower in quality than Mythic Raid loots. Of course, if you want the best loot, go Mythic Raiding. But weekly vault is a very good upgrade than weekly cache. The main problem with BFA was it’s raining of epic loots… huge pile of garbage epic loots. Even BFA weekly cache is garbage. I had series of 5 consecutive weeks with Garbage loots. Unlike on Shadowlands, I just have to play more M+ and Raid Boss kills and I would have selections on what I would get. Honestly, since I started getting weekly vault, I had sure ball upgrades every week. Becoz I step up my game every week or 2. We are the ones driving our Weekly Vault. If your vault is garbage is becoz you didnt wisely planned for it. You want your last M+ option on weekly vault to have good loot and you run a M+2? LOL.

Gearing is way slower in BFA and Legion. I dont think I reached M+10 on BFA 8.0 and Legion 7.0. While on Shadowlands, I am now at M+12 and I am still climbing up. The best part of it is… I am just Casual. 45 min to run 1x M+. And I could do 4 to 5 runs a week. Doable.

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3 is very accurate.

A lot of disappointment on so many levels. After BFA Blizzard choices went to the wrong direction. I do not have high hopes for anything else they release.

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About an 8 when theres content.

When there isnt — eh, about 3-4.

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Shadowlands feels worse to me. WOD lasted me about 4 months until i quite playing. Shadowlands I lasted about 2 1/2 and said NOPE. I’m out! This expansion is a complete snoozefest. I don’t give two poops about ANYTHING in shadowlands right now. They sucked the joy out of even alt leveling, because now it’s TO fast. It just rushes you to crap you know you don’t want to do again. No thanks. BC Classic can’t come fast enough for me.

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About a 5, like many expansions since MoP it’s okay but it could honestly be MUCH better with a bit more creative vision…

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I’d wrather eat paint chips while watching paint dry.

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It’s almost only fun when I’m playing with my group (3 of us) that I enjoy the game. Finishing a M+ in a pug can feel stressful and a bit fun, but the poor ilvl and drop-rate at the end of the dungeons (not vault) has left me with such low expectations. 95% of the time, I get a downgrade or nothing at all, when half my alt’s gear could be upgraded.

RNG has always been a thing, but I’ve never felt WoW to be this unrewarding. Alts almost always get an upgrade from the vault (unlike my main who gets the same 3 slots rotating every damn week even though I could get +19 ilvls on other slots), so maybe that’s why I made them. The last time I had more than 2 capped characters was MoP, and that was like…10 years ago? And it’s not because SL is alt friendly, either; the Torghast grind on each character…uhg…

Anyways, why do rings/necks not have main-stat? Especially since mainstat is the most important in SL, I’m getting so incredibly sick and tired of getting rings/necks with the wrong stats that are downgrades to lower ilvl items. Them keeping main-stat off of them is the type of irrational design that made it super easy to ignore all of BfA.

I genuinely feel like I hate the game now, but it’s likely a temporary feeling that will fade…maybe. Maybe not. I’m not resubbing once my 8 days are up, and there’s always a chance I’ll come back, but if I get invested into other things in this downtime, it’s the most likely I’ve ever been to never playing WoW again.

I am NOT an alt person, but I’ve leveled 3 completely new characters in SL. Did I want to try the classes out? Of course. However, usually just this shaman is enough. I mean, I skipped BfA (only expansion I ever refused to buy) and usually never cared for M+, but right now it’s the only thing of value in SL for me.

3 of my 4 characters were made in SL. Most people level characters they’ve had for awhile, and it’s crazy how after playing since vanilla I had none.

Well, guess this was my rant for the day…maybe.