How do you get past the awful disney-princess vibes of DF?

No one zugs like Garrosh, no one slugs like Garrosh, no one crushes the Alliance like bugs like Garrosh

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I can be gay and not be liberal. You know that, right? Lmao

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I agree. The over-sensitivity is ridiculous. Not sure why it immediately went to politics. Everyone is so damn lame haha

I was saying that at you. Not in support

The instigating event in Warcraft’s lore is genocide.

The follow up to that genocide, is more genocide.

Then the people who genocided twice decided they’d rather be muscular, hairy, sweaty orcs who, instead of committing genocide, decide to instead help stop the new genociders. But some orcs drink so much Code Red Mountain Dew that they decide decapitating a demigod is a wise idea.

The extended lore of Warcraft involves… wait for it…genocide. Genocidal demons, holy goats running away from genocidal demons, hairy, sweaty muscular orcs committing genocide on behalf of genocidal demons, genocidal elves, genocidal trolls, the defining event in every race’s lore except gnomes is either genocide, or horrific wars.

This doesn’t necessarily mean that World of Warcraft needs to be a nonstop procession of genocide. No, this doesn’t mean the game can’t take a break and stretch it’s legs. Normally the break would be welcomed. We definitely needed a palate cleanser after Blizzard sharted out the three worst expansions in the game’s history. But for the plot to suddenly get upstaged by Dragons who already said they were clocking out for the last time nearly a decade ago (our time), the blatant artist-self-insert scalies (not a problem that they exist, a problem that so much of the plot revolves around them) and to now go underground to help cartoon rabbit things and do more blatant scat fetish quests (how on earth has that guy stuck around at Blizzard this long but the breast milk thief didn’t?) complete with an entire furry scat fart vore fetish dungeon all come together to create a problem.

Warcraft is most Warcraft-y when big, hairy, sweaty dudes are fighting other big, hairy, sweaty dudes, and I’ve seen none of that. There is so much existing lore that could have been tapped into but Blizzard’s addiction to Green Room Syndrome means we have to go help cartoon rabbit things find their smelly Bad Dragon coins to shlock more upgrades into our gear. What’s the entire stable of existing characters who are not dragons doing? Ah, who knows, they’re off in the green room. You get five minutes with TYRANDUH and MALFURION where Malfurion confirms that he is taking another 10,000 year nap- can’t blame him at this point- and something something ‘oops we killed a bunch of night elves, have this plant.’

But thank god we’ve now established that as long as a person’s soul isn’t completely sundered into anima items, you can now canonically trade them and spring them from Warcraft-hell provided you just convince someone to cover their shift for them.

The only good story threads in Dragonflight:
1: The Human racial quest.
2: The Orc racial quest.
3: The side quests involving the Dragonmaw Clan Orc.
4: The side quests with the grumpy old Dwarf-Dragon.

Everything else is either mediocre or just bad. It is a problem that when presented with the opportunity to write a little vignette plot the story telling is massively elevated but when confronted with the expectation to craft an expansion spanning plot, Blizzard gives us a stable of four villains, four of whom did not exist in the lore prior to the current expansion, three of which are almost guaranteed to be dead by the end of it.

Do I need to explain the difference between an NPC that serves no lore function other than as a gag joke in an inn you can play all of Burning Crusade and not once notice, let alone enter, and something like Catacylsm, where the jokes got offensively bad? An entire zone devoted to a stupid CSI: Miami reference that aged like milk? How about an entire zone referencing 80’s action movies? That’ll never get old. Or an entire zone that’s a half-butt’d reference to Indiana Jones? Boy am I glad Blizzard built up Uldum as this mysterious place the Titans were cooking up crazy stuff at just to shove an enormous Indiana Jones reference into it.

Ironically, the promise of WOD’s design and aesthetic got sub counts back up to Wrath numbers. And then Blizzard screwed the pooch when they became aware of the fact that people liked that idea way more than Fan Service: the Expansion which they’d torpedo’d the idea people actually wanted and liked for.

Believe it or not the progressive left is so insufferable that it manages to alienate people from it’s cause. This includes homosexuals and bisexuals. Most end up in the libertarian party, granted, because they don’t pray that way and they’re not necessarily down with that Religious sickness.

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Huh? I didn’t bring it up. And I don’t care at all what you support. Lmao

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You did bring it up first.

BINGO. They are all about “freedom” and “expression” unless it’s something they don’t agree with and they try to silence it at all costs. They are embarrassing to most of the community and they don’t even realize it lmao

I said I didn’t like how woke and kid-friendly it was and someone else pulled politics into it. I used woke because I don’t have another word for it. Are you really this stupid? Of course you are. Look at your post history lamo

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I don’t get any kind of Disney vibes from DF.

Everything about your post SCREAMS of “you” problems.

+backs away slowly+

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Actually, the Duskwood questline kinda goes this way. It was good but in general I do agree that that manner of storytelling fits well for games like Diablo and Soulslike, as example.

Face, sometimes, some zones like Drustvar would blown us all away in a good sense, but the medieval-colored-way-of-things theme is perfect for WoW.

Yeah, feels the same way over here… looks straight out of some Disney children’s movie

Legion was the last time in recent times that the story felt “epic” imo, and the Disney/SJW stuff was kept to a minimum/barely noticeable

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Can I be the princess?

Can daddy Wrathion please sweep me off my feet?

:slight_smile:

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Honestly I don’t see a Disney vibe with the game.

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Bro I’m not saying I 100% disagree with you (though WoW has ALWAYS had cute elements along with its more edgy stuff) but you do realize we’re coming down from two of the worst expansions of all time, right? Expansions that tried and failed miserably to be a serious and edgy?

No one has the energy right now to see the current Blizz writers flail around again trying to portray war and drama. Give us a year or two in disneyland. We need the cooldown.

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Gay centaurs say hello

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There’s gay centaur at Disneyland? Count me in!

Yawn. If that’s the first example you can think of in regard to bad writing then something must be wrong with your brain. Check your fixations.

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Nice ad hominem attacks trying to defend your position.
Absolutely disgusting human being.

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Sir, this is a WoW forum. I wasn’t trying to defend anything. I don’t even understand what your position is. I have no interest in your weird paranoia toward people who aren’t like you. We’re trying to talk about WoW’s writing over here. Your knee-jerk example was to bring up gay people.

You have problems. Goodbye.

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Great projection there chief.
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