How do you gain reputation in Vanilla Guilds?

-Be active.
-Talk in guild chat.
-Hangout in discord (voice).
-Post dank memes in discord.

Try to get to know everyone on the raid team by being responsive in chat, running dungeons, pvping, or helping them do stuff.

There isn’t any hard and fast rule about reputation in loot council guilds. It’s all human nature and guilds maybe different. That said, some tips:

  • Show up to raids on time
  • Show up to raids properly equipped and with consumables.
  • Be a good player who knows your class and plays well. This means performing all encounter mechanics properly, not standing in bad, and having read up on fights prior to the raid getting there.
  • If you’re dps this means using a DPS meter properly (it’s a critical tool to assess your performance so you can see what to improve). The better you perform, the better you’ll look to the raid leads.
  • Be a player that other people want to play with. Avoid drama.
  • Make sure that the loot council is one you trust to do a good job and not show favoritism. If it’s not a good fit, find a different guild.

If you have problems with loot council, you may wish to join a guild with a DKP system. That way you have much more control over what items you get.

Guild Reputation wasn’t added until Wrath.

Reputation in a guild… well the biggest thing is don’t be something you can’t say on these forums. (Your choice all are bad).

Loot Council decision making is a factor of the guild. If your guild gives you loot because you suck up to them, its a bad guild.

“Common sense aside” you should not choose your guild by how easy or hard you can get loot. You should choose your guild because you get along with the people in it, it looks like a good fit for you, and there aren’t people holding “We control the loot” over your head for good behavior.

Guilds are far more than a loot train, they’re a group of friends, and eventually a family. People got literally married to guildmates, because they were so close.

Depends on the guild. I secured a core raid spot in my Vanilla Raid guild because I showed up to a progression raid with barely enough for 1 repair without complaining when other members of the guild didn’t want to go because “repairs are expensive”.

  1. Most loot councils will consider gearing those who benefit the raid (i.e. tanks and healers geared first). They also take into account who needs the gear more. High dps, who makes raid times, and is fun to play with will likely get first dibs. However, if the council feels the lower dps will benefit from a new epic, then that would be the case. And sometimes it’s just a favorites or popularity thing. It’s all up to debate, but it is easier and often more fair than keeping track of DKP.
  2. Everyone is going to be farming gold and materials. Just play your game, and contribute what you can. If you put in good work, most guild and raid leaders will take notice.
  3. Don’t show up to raid unprepared. Have all your reagents, ammo, food, world buffs, etc. Don’t go afk or do your own thing. It’s important to listen to the raid leader’s instructions. If you need to stack, stack up. If you’re told to slow damage, slow damage. If you’re told to focus skull then X, focus skull then X. Have a good attitude, and don’t rage or cry if you don’t get the drop you want.

The journey to max level in classic is a long one, but end game is where it really begins. Most guilds will not even make it to raiding level, so just have fun and play the game. It takes so long to level up and then to gear up for raids, that you’ll learn everything you need to know in the process.

GMs gf position>nudes>raid attendance>Being Enchanted>using consumes>playing well>being a positive player

At launch walking in as Pre-Bis does wonders. People who are lazy about pre-bis usually get looked over early on.

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just be there. show up for raids. Be ready for raid. Don’t worry about everyone else unless the raid lead ask members to farm mats or something.

Help others, pass out consumables, take it seriously but not too seriously. You know. Be a cool dude, basically.

  1. MAKE FRIENDS AND BE A NICE PERSON.

  2. LEARN HOW TO PLAY YOUR CLASS AND DON’T BE A FLAKE.

  3. EXPRESS YOUR DESIRES IN A DIPLOMATIC WAY.

  4. OWN YOUR MISTAKES AND ALWAYS TRY TO IMPROVE.

It’s really that simple, YOU will advance in game AND in real life if you apply these basic concepts to your whole life.

And always talk in All Caps. It makes people feel more special that you’re talking to them. :slight_smile:

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CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!

The AI made me put some stuff in lower case because it cannot read capslock.

well because to me when you talk about earning rep you only talk about giving the guild items. you dont talk about actually interacting with your guild and being apart of the team.

that is the best way to earn rep.

being someone who is always there and ready to help the guild is someone everyone will be happy about getting loot.

This might already have been mentioned, but one of the most important factors is picking the right guild for you in the first place. Do NOT assume that a guild that says they use Loot Council (or DKP or Suicide Kings or any other system) works the same as any other guild that says the same.

My experience back in TBC was that most guilds had websites with pretty decently detailed explanations of their loot rules, even for people they were inviting along that weren’t guild members. (I wasn’t. I only ever guilded one of my alts with a DKP guild so they could track some numbers for me for this gal, and all the rest I was basically a “pug” though not an unknown because I was so regular with some of them.)

Also, much of your reputation building can (and ideally should) happen before you ever hit 60 or apply. If you get known for being selfish about loot in 5-man groups, or having a bad attitude when a wipe happens, or never being available if an in-game friend you’ve made asks for help, that will be remembered. Someone might apply to a guild, get turned down, and it turns out they got to be well-known for swiping nodes (herbs, ore) from same faction players who were clearing mobs trying to get to it. Or even for Trade trolling that annoyed enough people in the guild they don’t want that someone in Guild Chat.

  1. Loot councils should consider players activiry, current gear, how effective the item is for the class and a few other things.
  2. I wouldnt “donate” to a guild. If your going to do that farm extra and bring extra to raids to cover people. Make sure what your “donating” is being used in a way that makes it known you helped. You dont want your spot filled and them using your flasks/pots/other consumables.
  3. Dont show up to raids late/unprepared. This means consumables if required. This means repaires (not just 60% either but 100%) arrows/reagents. If you a paladin bring atleast 80 symbols of kings but more likely 160 for example. Personally the most important part of a raiding guild to me is finding one that has the fairest loot distribution (i tend to stay away from loot councils)

Gaining rep in Vanilla, pretty much like TBC. It’s a GRIND.

First off, I am going to run a very strong raiding guild and plan to control lots of PvP as well on whatever server we end up on. The main thing is showing your skill, being friendly and courteous, and not being afraid to run that dungeon you don’t need loot from. Showing people how good you are while also being cheerful and fun to be around will naturally get people to want to play with you, just like making friends in real life.

Going the extra mile does not mean that you have to drop everything every time to help everyone though, you need to learn a balance that works for you. If you always help people all the time but no one ever helps you, perhaps you are in the wrong Guild or have the wrong group of friends and need to search for more. You can always go do a dungeon as a tank or healer to search for more friends if that is the case.

Loot Council in my experience tend to prefer people who are around every week without fail, but things like family deaths or weddings are an exception of course. I personally try to give loot to people who are always there, show up early, bring their own consumables even if we supply them, and are generally nice people to have around. I also try to focus on player skill and what they bring to the raid as a player above their class, but of course you have to balance loot to everyone not just the five “heroes” in a guild.

Donating to guilds, especially high end guilds during progression, should always get you noticed and given some sort of priority for either loot or doing dungeons etc. If it is a lower end guild and they are all your friends, loot might come naturally anyways without much effort put in outside of showing up.

Common sense?
Don’t ninja. That Fury Warr pulling aggro all dungeon and a general a** hole? He’s still got that Screenshot for Reddit and the server forums.
Don’t gank unless you want to be. On a chill day that I want to just farm mats I /wave at everyone. Sometimes /bonk makes them stop attacking me, but sometimes you have to just kill or be killed. Also some players will gank you endlessly and you will learn who they are, and to kill them on sight - sometimes with your friends helping you :wink: