At present, I’m not enjoying WW Monk as much as I did in previous expansions. Some of this is due to changes that I’ll eventually acclimate to like a smaller cooldown pool, but Tigereye Brew in particular feels… burdensome. After you use the first 20 stacks at some point during the encounter, the subsequent uses feel like you’re being punished for either using Tigereye Brew with only a few stacks or using Zenith sub-optimally. I’m sure that there’s a “best’“ time to use them (likely trying to keep Zenith on cooldown, barring fight-specific timings), but it generally doesn’t feel great, I don’t think. Was curious as to what other people thought about it.
TEB is fine. But it’s just… fine.
It’s more passive than I wanted it to be. From what I’ve been told by people more experienced with Monk than me in the Monk Discord, It’s not really something we play around.
Use zenith when it’s up, and when you need burst. You’ll naturally regain some stacks while you wait for the CD. You don’t really need to play around gathering stacks. If you try to wait you’ll end up wasting potential uses waiting for a buff that isn’t strong enough to justify a missed cast.
Id rather have TEB than not. It’s not like it’s weak, it just doesn’t have the depth I was hoping for.
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I’ll try to time things, but for the most part, I just use zenith if something needs to die. I think it’d be nice if there was an active component to TeB like Chi usage generating charges faster like how it was back in MoP, but it’s ok as is.
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I myself am not a fan of TEB but it’s at least something we don’t have to micromanage. You just use Zenith when you need the burst and if you have stacks you got stacks. That said with the way it’s designed now it will never be more than a ‘meh’ apex talent.
I wished they had gone with something to do with the old Crosswinds artifact talent but made it so it had a chance on every ability use to summon 1 or 2 wind clones. Then the higher apex nodes were increased chances to proc and they also debuffed the target in some way.
For a class called Windwalker they don’t do much of anything with Wind in a literal sense. The Crosswind wind clones could have leaned in to it a bit more than TEB. But it is what it is.
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Don’t tempt them. The last “wind” related thing we got was Slicing Winds.
I miss that. It was a cool addition/animation to FoF.
Don’t worry about your stacks, worry about using Zenith correctly. The stacks are a distraction and something I begged to remove so that these things wouldn’t happen.
One issue I have is that it takes longer to get 10 stacks then it takes for the cool down to recharge. My first stack starts at 10 when the fight starts, but if I wait until right when my charge is almost off cool down then the next Zenith is going to be weaker.
I understand that they don’t want us to use Zenith back to back. If it had more interaction with the spec that would be nice.
Something like gain X stacks every time you RSK or FoF would be preferable.
I like the initial burst that we have, I just want a way for subsequent Zeniths to be as impactful without having to sit at cap for extended periods of time
There is nothing magical about 10 stacks that serves as a goal for when you use Zenith.
Well… at least you can generate TEB stacks yourself. Would have been nice if they left in the 6 second stack gain as well as being able to generate some but w/e.
Eh. Realistically this means that we’ll have close to the 20 stack limit for TEB before its cool down comes back up. Especially since the 20 second reduced cool down isn’t as strong as the extra 5 second duration. Add this change to Xuen’s Battlegear also causing Spinning Crane Kick to reduce the cool down of Fists of Fury and Xenith providing two additional Zenith Stomps, Windwalker is going to be sitting pretty nicely in both single target and AoE.
Even if mathed out to be the exact same timing, I prefer this incoming change.
Having a sense of agency over what’s supposed to be a cool new talent is preferable imo.
Obviously I’ll have to see how it feels to actually play, but having a little control doesn’t seem like a bad thing.
The mistake you’re making is paying attention to it. It is just a passive damage increase, you should not be changing your rotation to fit it.
Kekw was blizz lurking in this thread? Quick someone mention something about not wanting FoF to eat up so much of Zenith’s duration.
the most boring apex of all