The people you’re talking about have no self awareness at all. Everything is about them and if something isn’t about them they will make it about them.
They have no business being involved with making video games.
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Body shape sliders would help alleviate any claims of sexualization. Sure, some people will make a female body’s chest larger but also some will make it smaller. It will average out in the end. Just like in life.
Clothes and skimpy armor have already been normalized with transmogs and updates to core characters.
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in order to throw it back in our faces they should give all males in the game a huge dong.
Make 10 inches the azeroth standard
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Swim suits aren’t sexual until you looked at them that way. Honestly that says so much about you, too much really.
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She, nor anyone sane, was never asking for any form of censorship for any of the current (at that time) models. What was asked for was a little variety, which mind you, we do have now… so you guys can probably stop making these threads.
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Just like Comedy… True unfiltered Comedy is dead now…
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The people thinking that children (or anything resembling children) in swimsuits is sexual frighten me.
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I pretty much stopped consuming any sort of mainstream media, years ago.
It’s poisoned.
WoW is the last multiplayer game i still play, and i don’t know for how long.
Sooner than later ill just stick to collecting old games/consoles and playing them casually and start investing my time and money into another hobby that these people can’t touch.
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They’re undergarments. It’s not me it’s Stanford that defined the definition of oversexualized:
news.stanford.edu/news/2013/october/virtual-female-avatars-100913.html
See you’re wrong!
Don’t care. I just like digital boobies.
Do you… Do you wear clothes over your swimsuit?
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Why is it you attribute only ‘boys’ to adjusting a female character’s chest size to larger? Sounds like some low key shade being tossed there. I can 100% assure you my sister whenever she gets to play with body sliders makes her women characters fit the ‘stereotypical hot chick’ because that is what she enjoys seeing on her screen.
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- Sex sells.
- Everyone likes to play dress-up in some form or fashion.
- People have varying levels of disbelief they are willing to suspend, and varying levels of immersion they will accept.
The answer is very simple: Transmogrification is a form of Illusion magic that can obscure items, and there are two philosophies to armor in combat:
a. Look big and mean so things leave you alone.
b. Look skimpy so that things don’t take you seriously until you smash their faces in with a hammer.
The burden, then, becomes to provide styles and looks and characters that both sides can enjoy, and a convenience out of “magic” to protect immersion and a sense of disbelief. Those of us who enjoy running around looking like a Main Battle Tank can do so, and shake our head at the obvious trap of a wafer thin elf in a bikini looking cute and innocent until their victim’s sword shatters on a mithril reinforced titan-steel alloy breastplate imbued with elementium crafted by the pinnacle of Dwarven armor-smiths and enchanted to look like a bikini top and simply pass it off as “magic”.
I’m just waiting on my sub to run out… I went to SWTOR, its kinda funny that you can tell that game was made by heterosexual males, there is no way alot of the story elements would fly today.
Which women? What’s the statistics on it? Because I assure you all of us are different.
I think having variety is key. Have enough variation that it it’s not common but gives everyone a choice. In regard to transmog I’m for everyone having options as well.
Men’s sexualization exists but rarely. They are made out to be strong more than sexualized. You trying to push for our right to walk around topless is more for you than us though.
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I agree to some extent, but it’s not so black and white IMO. I mean on the one hand, we all agree that the toxic bro culture a lot of game companies (and eSports organizations and the industry in general) were founded on exudes behavior that we all agree is completely unacceptable.
However, most people will follow that up with, “in a professional work environment” or even “in a more casual eSports team/in-game guild”.
My question then is, how is it not hypocritical to dismiss this behavior in game when players treat each other badly or objectify women. Why just because we’re players, does the same or at least a similar moral standard not apply? Because it’s the internet? Because it’s too hard to enforce? Because that’s how everyone is? And we just have to deal with it?
Well, those might all be true, but IMO, it’s this unchecked “it’s-the-internet-so-get-over-it” attitude that has also assisted in creating workplace cultures that mirror the same sentiment. Maybe we should do better as a people.
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It’s a pretty big double standard.
He-man isn’t seen as sexualized. A shirtless orc like Garrosh isn’t sexualized. But you show some cleavage on a female and they are being sexualized.
This conception only exists because women have been historically more covered up than men. And, with regard to female sexualization, there is usually no male equivalent to it. Female characters can simply be sexualized in many more ways than male ones can.
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It exists just as much as women’s sexualization and objectification. It’s just more socially acceptable.
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You can see that in a lot of old games, they were made by people that enjoyed videogames and wanted to make something fun, memorable and exciting to play.
Id love to post an image that sums up everything pretty well here, but i would get a permaban.
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It’s not the same. Men aren’t depicted as mere objects for the most part. Not saying WoW is overwhelmingly guilty of this. I think they do have variety, especially now. They need more of it in transmog. Especially for male options.
But in an overall pop culture standpoint. Men are posed as strong and keep their autonomy. Women often times have lost that.
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