How Can We Redeem/Rebuild The Horde (Actual Horde Edition)

It’s been a few days since I’ve updated so I added a bit regarding the external narrative. Still working on it.

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Can I put my story in here? Then kick me out. Maybe.

Bad story. "Beautiful" death

The Jailer has been killed. The Covenants have been repaired, reformed in some places. The hole in the sky was closed, the portals were closed, all the living and undead were expelled from the Dark Lands, including Sylvanas, Anduin was taken out as a corpse.

Tyrande leads Sylvanas on a chain; she wants to kill her with saronite, so that later, in the Womb, she will finally be killed. Somewhere behind they drag Anduin’s body (Jaina levitates).

Tyrande announces her plan for the meeting delegation (composition is not important, Genn is needed), the delegation does not approve of such cruelty. Speaking unfairly about the entire delegation, Tyrande leads Sylvanas to the Frozen Throne. Having firmly secured Sylvanas to the throne, Tyrande breaks off a sharp piece from him. “You will look good here.” Genn (alone) comes to dissuade Tyrande from unnecessary cruelty, in memory of Anduin. Tyrande lifts him by the neck and asks about Anduin and his actions regarding the night elves. Before he can reply, Tyrande throws him back and kills Sylvanas.

Announcing to the delegates that the night elves are leaving the Alliance, Tyrande tries to kill the delegates from the Horde, but they are jointly protected.

Azshara’s attacks on Orgrimmar begin, and Gallywix’s pleasure palace has been destroyed by lush vegetation. Mulgore is attacked by spawn of the sprawling Wildgrowth. At first, the Horde copes, but after a while they need help, since Mulgore was destroyed by the beasts and night elves changed by the Nightmare. Druids of the Horde try to figure out the reasons for the appearance of the Nightmare in Azeroth, but they are killed; many druids of the Alliance and Horde in the Emerald Dream fall prey to the Nightmare.
Once the Alliance assists the Horde, its territories will be attacked through portals to the Dream.

Having broken through to Nordrassil, the united army meets no resistance, only lights circle around the trees. Lots of lights. The sound of a horn is heard, the lights explode. Of the combined army, only those in the immediate vicinity of Nordrassil and the Wild Gods’ shrines will survive. The lower half of the World Tree is badly burned.

Stormwind was destroyed while the burning of Nordrassil lasted. No one was particularly hurt, everyone fled to the ruins of Gilneas while helping the Horde.

Shandris’ traitor reveals that the night elves are living in the burned Teldrassil and are experimenting with fire and Nightmare there. She pledges to help if they keep Tyrande and as many of the night elves alive as possible.

The goblins deploy Gallywix’s Pride to western Teldrassil, fire. Half of Bilgewater Harbor is gone.

Aviation breaks through the gap, meeting the attack of the corrupted hippogryphs. In the temple of Elune, there will be a fight with Malfurion the Nightmare and Tyrande, half-dead from the force. Winner - 25 “heroes” and some personalities from the factions, Malfurion will die.

Shandris, calling to Elune, prevents Tyrande from killing. She, through wheezing, speaks of the treacherous nature of the Horde and the Alliance, Shandris agrees with her, but denies the right to kill everyone. The power of Elune leaves Tyrande, leaving only the withered elf.

News arrives of the conquest of Orgrimmar by the night elves and refugees to the Broken Isles. Tyrande smiles and says that what remains is to take revenge on the dead and is trying to kill herself. She is captivated.

Shandris, in front of the arriving night elf reinforcements, proclaims herself the new High Priestess and orders the combined army to leave Teldrassil. She keeps the withered Tyrande for herself.


Acknowledgments: Elesana, for the cheerful groans; Amadis, for major posts; Kyalin, for scenarios with the Horde in mind; Призраклеса, for the change in mood.


“Beautiful” death. Illegal, inconsistent, poor in characters. Provides no solution to old and new grievances for the Horde and Alliance, creates new grievances for the night elves. But how pleasant it is to invent this “withering” of Azeroth.


Let the whisper of the Ancients be famous.

Unless you have some dragonballs handy, i dont really see how it could be done

You don’t see how someone who hated Forsaken for years, had a brief change of heart, and then immediately after had his new home destroyed by the Forsaken leader would have another change of heart reversing the first one?

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OH, i thought you meant reversing Teldrassil itself

Yeah Genn probably does hate their guts again

Yeah on that front I only have one theory that I’ve had since last year.

  1. Zovaal attacks the Winter Queen, since the Heart of the Forest is some sort of “seal” on the Maw
  2. She needs a crapton of power to survive
  3. It’s revealed the Night Warrior power is capable of doing this and that WQ is Elune’s daughter
  4. Tyrande releases the Night Warrior to the WQ as a thank you for saving her Auntie Ysera
  5. WQ, now super powered at maximum strength, chooses to restore Teldrassil by making it a new Tirna in reality, thereby ensuring that Ardenweald could survive anything, and let’s Tyrande use the Grove of Awakening to mass-rez the Night Elves like the Drust managed to do for a bit until they were stopped.
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That’s one of the better ideas I seen lately and I actually like it. It certainly fits the zone and how the WQ seems to be the strongest one out of the four Eternal Ones

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Plus it would likely give the Winter Queen a white-clothing makeover, making her actually look winter-y

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Could Bwonsamdi try and rez some dead trolls? Or no?

Also would the WQ finally treat him like an equal? Lol

There’s certainly nothing, lore wise anyway, stopping him from doing so :smiley_cat:

Well, didn’t they already say that the destruction of Teldrassil is final and that they want to keep it impactful and therefore not reverse it? :roll_eyes:
I hate it

Nope.

They did not say that.

Want to keep it impactful yes, not reverse it no. That latter bit has never been stated.

To note: they didn’t actually destroy Teldrassil or Undercity. Undercity just has Green Bad, and Teldrassil has Red Bad and a changed skybox for the moment.

They only did landscape changes to Darkshore and Tirisfal.

There’s your impact lol

Hm I’m fairly sure that they answered an interview question asking if Teldrassil could be restored with no during the Blizzcon Q&A.

I’ll try to find it.

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Could Teldrassil be rebuilt again?

  • The devastation to Teldrassil was definite and there were a lot of lives lost there. That’s not something they want to reverse on a whim.

"Not something they want to reverse on a whim"

On a whim

Whim

This of course implies that they would reverse it on something more complex than a whim lol

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I mean, I mentioned this previously.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/an-rpers-reflection-on-darnassus-four-years-after-logging-out-for-the-last-time/825998

Yeah, it’s still there. No, it’s far from the same.

Edit: I imagine it’s pretty damned similar for Forsaken players with Brill.

It would be strange to me to answer the question in such a way then.

It was asked if Teldrassil could be rebuilt, not if it could be rebuilt on a whim, so I’m not so sure about that. Meta wise, we can easily say that it will never happen though since Blizzard only knows how to destroy things for cheap outrage and not how to rebuild things.

They don’t even have enough ressources to add more customizations throughout the expansion, so a remastered Teldrassil is definitely out of the question.

The thing is, gameplay wise, there’s nothing to rebuild.

The damage was not done to the cities themselves, the only 3D model changes were had in Darkshore and Tirisfal.

Brill was actually destroyed, and Darkshore was actually destroyed. Those changes are likely permanent (sans Yellow Dragon Time Machine effect you can toggle).

Teldrassil is still intact, Undercity is still intact.

If we’re at the beach, and I built a sand castle, and then you smash the sand castle, and I ask “Hey are you gonna help me play with my sand castle again?” and you respond “not on a whim”, I’m assuming you’re going to do so later and you’re being weird about it lmao

They’re not going to remaster undercity nor teldrassil, but my money is one straight up just regranting access within the narrative.

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The damage was not done to the cities themselves, the only 3D model changes were had in Darkshore and Tirisfal.

I disagree.

Darnassus as I said is accessible, yet dead. The concepts that Night Elf and Forsaken players had about what they were representing are dead, or they were at least replaced with something far more negative and depressing to represent. These are the real effects, and they are not so simple as who holds a zone or what the environment looks like.

A sand castle isn’t what was destroyed here - it was the whole dream of what that sand castle was to be.

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We’ll see I guess. I mean the most impactful thing was the genocide, and I’m still mad that we couldn’t free most of the souls and that so many were destroyed.

If Blizzard wasn’t so ressource starved a remastered home for Night Elves and Forsaken would be awesome though.

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They aren’t resource starved, those resources are going to what we in the corporate world call “competing interests”.

That’s code for “I really don’t care about what you’re concerned about”.