Or how the Horde who’s plan was the invade and occupy the tree did not bring a single means of their own to actually get on or into it? Seriously, the only ships we had were a few we stole from the NEs? And that apparently the reason for this is that the Horde fleet was decimated in the Legion invasion, down to the last ship/airship/zepplin apparently. While the EK Alliance’s fleet that also was supposedly in the same state (and thus was our apparent opportunity to commit the WoT) … was apparently able spare like 8 ships to just hunt down the neutral Zandalari princess? Also, the Horde regressed to BC era tech/tactics during the WoT for some reason?
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I don’t recall cross-continental catapults in TBC.
No … those were Sylvie’s stupid SUPER Catapults from Stormheim I guess. Not that those made sense either, and Blizz clearly chose those catapults to stoke a nostalgic image. Like, if we need artillery that could span that distance the Horde did have it. Its just in the form of rockets or our navy/airforce, not in the form of catapults…
It’s so dumb. The premise about BfA in the start was about how Azerite would change how war is waged. But that is barely touched upon really. It’s just a stupid endless grind mechanic. Gallywix and Sylvanas were two of the Horde’s “big players” so seeing something like a Forsaken/Goblin blight and azerite infused super bomb that helped even out the power vs Alliance demigod leaders would have been cool to see imo.
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I guess they didn’t want too much of a rehash of Theramore? I dunno. It was all dumb. Especially when you realize that if the objective was to blitz Teld fast and hold it hostage to ensure retaliation from the rest of the Alliance was difficult … the Horde didn’t even need to go through a week long meatgrinder that was Ashenvale/Darkshore. If we apparently didn’t have our entire fleet destroyed in Legion (despite being a completely optional faction in that expac) … we could have just used our Navy to Blitz Teld. It would have also taken the NEs out of their favored terrain, which is THE #1 we’ve known for ages to try to do when fighting them.
Azerite itself was likely a casualty of the evident rewrites that BfA suffered.
A lot of things from interviews which they’d say the narrative would cover just ended up being cut or not added at all, and the narrative they kept hyping was far more focused on a sense of grey.
BfA from intial concept to prepatch likely suffered a ton of rewrites, and then the actual patch content was likely heavily changed.
It’s evident from what we saw prior to launch and what ended up coming out that the Horse’s evil presence was greatly inflated and after 8.1 that they spun the story in another direction while dropping all prior foreshadowing.
You’d think a rehash of theramore would be on the check list since the whole thing is a massive rip off of MoP/Garrosh’s arc. 
And SLs is just WoD2.0 … don’t remind me lol. 
I won’t lie.
The biggest thing from interviews that I’m kind of sad was never brought up in-game was Anduin trying to be machismo to live up to his father’s legacy and denying who he actually is.
The other thing was the quest chain they mentioned where Alliance characters would discover who let Saurfang escape and how it might divide/fracture the Alliance.
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It even made it into the BfA cinematic. It’s very clear from the visual framing. I was very interested to see that arc played out, as predictable as it would be, but then they just dropped it.
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When the cinematic director before BfA launched said the cinematic was about Anduin trying to be his father leading in failure (everyone was dying/losing) and the tide only turned when he put down the sword and embraced his true nature as a healer and priest, I was like “oh man, that’s some good visual storytelling.”
Then you go in-game, realize that entire plotline was dropped and then Anduin blows up a tank with his sword.
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The cinematic team is always on point when given the material to do so.
BfA could have been like… Legit really good. I stand by this. Faction war can be done well. One day we’ll know what happened for sure. That there were rewrites is a given, why and who we can speculate, hopefully we’ll know sooner than later.
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Would you change the start to lordaeron first, would be the entire start of bfa end in an massive quit of subs from allianceplayer, then now not only they lost in both events, na, on top of that the entire teldrassil thing would be partly their fault.
The entire wot would be " you attacked me first, now i strike back". And many!!! Would justify the genozid with lordaeron.
It would be better for the horde, sure, but for the entire game? Not so sure
I’m just going to point out that in the recent conversation, no one appeared to be saying this.
Oh, the message was from 1 hour ago^^ haha. Between this and my answer answered a few others aswell^^
For clarity’s sake then, you may want to tag who you were replying to, or quote from the post in question.
Yes.
The Horde is monstrous. That should be understood by the Alliance as something to be wary of, even if they understand some among them like Thrall, Hamuul, and Rokhan are generally noble. Any of them not only tower over most of the Alliance but probably outmuscle them, too. That should be something the Alliance pays attention to, and considers whenever dealing with them.
This is called racism. You want racism to be added to the story. You are attempting to posture otherwise, but that is also what you want.
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I am not sure, I rather think that this judgement for him would be quasi-legal. They are not misunderstood monsters, they are monsters, and it is not prejudice, but pure truth.
If I understood his argument correctly. And this wouldn´t be racism.
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Racism is enshrined in law before it is placed in culture; slavery came before race science. Racism is foremost a legal construction historically, because it requires the classification of people in social hierarchy, a legal procedure.
It is racism. My statement stands.
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