It’s like that with Real Thicc! Everyone in the guild got 1800 together in RBGs and some of us really had to strive. But, it was all worth it. That Season 1 of BfA is hands down the best mog in the game, I don’t even care what anyone else says. All gear types are blown out of the water. And, of course. We got that great big hippo!
I for one think that it would be very understandable if the majority of the Alliance’s citizenship and a significant portion of it’s military leadership felt racists feelings towards the Horde- it’s realistic considered how much pointless suffering the Alliance has experienced at the Horde’s hands, even after Thrall’s attempts to reform the Horde.
But I certainly don’t want them to SUCCEED committing a racist-based atrocity like Forced Relocation*, or abducting the Horde’s children and forcing them into Cultural Re-Education Camps.
*Badmaa was never actually advocating the Alliance kicking the Horde out of Kalimdor to Northrend, but rather they themselves choosing to voluntarily exiling themselves there. Except, this is already partially why Thrall went to Kalimdor in the first place, and it failed when 1) they discovered Jaina was also setting up shop there 2) Daelin followed them and used his daughter’s city as a base of operations against them 3) the Kaldorei, who they had had some difficulties with but ultimately made peace with, joined the Alliance. Given that Northrend already has an Alliance Race living there (Frost Dwarves) and at least seven addition significant Alliance bases in addition to Frosthold (Valgarde, Valiance Keep, Westgaurd Keep, Fizzlecrank Airstrip, Fordragon Hold, Wintergarde Keep, Fort Wildevar) I see no reason whatsoever such a repeat of history has any chance of success.
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Has any Azerothian culture received any development in Shadowlands? A few Azerothian individuals have, but that’s it as far as I know.
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Yes, particularly the Night Elves with the 9.1 revelations
Really? Something happens that is applicable to all Night Elves everywhere, and not just to Tyrande and Shandris? Like what?
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Given according to The Masses, 90% of Night Elves died, and we apparently save a majority of them, and Elune said that the Night Elves as a collective race, which is now in Ardenweald in majority, has a magical destiny they will serve in Ardenweald that will save Ardenweald, yes.
So as a whole, not only are Night Elves the Chosen People of Elune, they are also now the Saviors of Ardenweald, as a whole.
Do you mean that the “majority” who reside in Ardenweald consists entirely of the dead nelves retrieved from Torghast?
? No. 
If the Alliance leaders are aggressive towards the Horde because of the actions the Horde committed (genocide) then it’s not racist. That’s like calling the Blood elves racist for distrusting the humans of Stormwind because of Garithos’ and Dalaran’s actions.
Wait, so all or most of the living Nelf population of Azeroth moves to the Afterlife?
Most of the Nelf population is dead. Most of that dead population is in Ardenweald. Where Elune has confirmed they have a magical destiny that will save Ardenweald.
Baal believes that the Winter Queen and the Primus are going to work together to retcon BfA by undoing the War of the Thorns and the Battle of Lordaeron
So ‘yes, the majority of the Nelf population now consists of the spirits of the dead and reside in Ardenwaeld’?
…also, I don’t know if I’d consider the spirits of those dead who have passed on and now exist in the afterlife still part of the same overall population. given that the Afterlife is now just a place you can physically travel to and visit while alive, that distinction probably is splitting hairs now.
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There was a point where I would have said “yeah, I think the alliance should show some racism” because I thought that used to be a thing earlier in the game, and I feel there needed to be some sort of blatant unjust action to give the horde faction something to feel good pushing back against. But then BFA happened, and given how that turned out, along with Certain Things I heard about how some roleplayers chose to interact with the prepatch (even if they were an extreme minority)…yeesh. It did a lot to convince me that it’d never be done well.
But that just wraps back around to my event horizon pessimism. I don’t think the horde can ever be brought back up to a comparable level after the direction the story has gone. But some alliance players don’t want to see their faction get brought down morally either, or don’t believe it ever can. Which is kinda yikes but that’s what the game has done. So I don’t see the faction stories ever improving.
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The Alliance can be morally brought down without making them racist. Making a random Alliance leader racist would be pointless anyway. It would end up like the Sylvanas warchief thing. All the blame would be thrown onto the racist leader who would be ousted and thus the rest of the Alliance would be absolved of any and all guilt and grey actions.
I think a good way to make the Alliance clearly be “the bad guys” in the narrative would be if the curse of flesh was explored further. By that i mean the curse of flesh (a void curse) should be a cause for sadistic tendencies in some humans, gnomes, and dwarves. Making them commit heinous acts against the Horde. Or conversely, the dwarves and gnomes find a way to reverse the curse of flesh and turn back into titan-forged. These titan-forged alliance would be very robotic and ruthless (like the terminators) against the Horde. It’s easy to paint the alliance in a bad light without the “make them racist again” BS.
I am not saying make everyone racist, but lets be real here. I feel like…racism if a very real thing in Warcraft for both factions.
Calling orcs green-skins as a slur and that sort of stuff, there is clear prejudice already in each faction.
The fact it HAS existed in both factions is why using it to paint the Alliance as “bad” wouldn’t really work. Horde races do the same thing. The Blood elves look down on humans (see Nathanos backstory), the Zandalari see other races as beneath them, Orcs call the Humans pink-skins. Racism as a theme can be well done. Blizzard would definitely fail at it, look at Garrosh…
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I mean I would expect the alliance to give up those holds when they see the entirety of the Horde coming to the Continent or even peacefully escorted away by the Horde. Also I wouldn’t expect the horde to abandon all of its holds in the other continents either just most their capitals aka civilian population, while maintain mabey a few small military outpost to keep an eye on the Alliance. Silvermoon I would expect would probably be the one hold out that would probably not move.
However I can see my Idea has been soundly shot down by Horde players who didn’t bother to read the idea and just presumed this was some forced relocation at the Hands of the Alliance.
Sadly all I see from most horde posters is simply they want ignore the “redeem the Horde” deeming it impossible therefore not worth looking at. All they simply want is the rebuild component where they get a bunch of new allies, rebuilt cities and super powered characters as a reward for their actions. Honestly the entire premise of the title is false and should probably be renamed “How the alliance should be made the bad guy so we can beat them up and get super powerful why doing it.”
It doesn’t surprise me why blizzard keeps using the Horde as the Antagonist as the Horde player base simply dig in there heels and adamantly don’t want the faction to change. Where as “most” Alliance players actually want their faction to be more aggressive toward the Horde and have more of those grey moments. If Blizzard actually did give us more the Horde player base would riot in response that they wouldn’t be allowed to outright destroy the Alliance.
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There’s a very bitter taste in my mouth, because I hated everything you just posted and despite that, the odds are good we’ll see it come to pass.
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THIS JUST IN!
Horde getting the villain bat is THE HORDE PLAYER’S FAULT!
You heard it here folks!
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