Yeah I donât give it the gravity many seem to. Doesnât matter much to me since I wonât be going Shadow Priest.
You will melt faces as a shadow priest in pvp.
Still a cc breaker that no one else has, and donât discount devouring, it has a lot of healing potential
Faces will be melted in PVP.
People must not realize that pvp trinkets are based on class, and different classes can break different CC. Having more options available is super strong, and theyâre separate cooldowns. WotF is very very strong.
yup remember everyone, all the top pvpers have basically stated that troll is the best race for horde as a shadow priest, but no letâs listen to a random 2k 2v2 nobody who says otherwise LOL.
Idk man, everyone who has been âvanillaâ pvping for years says undead has an advantage, but theyâre close
Uh no they donât lol. Undead is literally a niche pick. The only time DP is even semi reliable is when youâre fighting 1v1 who doesnât have a way to get rid of it (which most do) and if they arenât a dwarf. And even STILL sit costs almost 1k mana so you have to waste your IF to use it or youâll oom and die, removing the best part of that ability which gives you a huge mindblast crit that would do even more damage than your DP would have done anyway.
In a fight where youâre DP actually gets off itâs full damage, your shadowguard would have done more damage while also giving you chances to proc blackout. I mean if you want to argue that undead is probably best while fighting non dwarf warrior who doesnât have any disease cleaning pots⌠then sure we can argue that. Itâs still close considering shadow guard procs blackouts like crazy.
If we are arguing whatâs better overall for every fight, the clear winner is troll. Idc if you donât believe that, thatâs fine, youâre just wrong.
Iâll trust people who have been playing âvanillaâ for the last 15 years over a random forum poster kthx, Iâm not even going to pvp anyway, was just posting the I formation I have spent the last year collecting
Who are you talking about specifically because literally every private server pvper knows troll is the best. I feel like youâre just making this up. Iâm premades your DP isnât going to stick on a target for a second before itâs gone. There is an item with a 40% drop chance that literally counters undead priests completely making you waste 2 spells or die oom lol. You canât argue facts
I would honestly like to hear what makes you think DP>shadow guard because this topic has been discussed so much I can tear it down very easily
Dp isnt better then shadowguard, but wotf is better then beserking
Thereâs a reason the cool kids are cool.
So once again, a niche ability. How many classes is wotf good against? 3? Wotf is good dont get me wrong, but the times where wotf will save your life or win a fight donât even come close to the times where shadow orbs will save you and win you the fight just based on that.
Not to mention the free 25% healing reduction trolls get that is only cleansed by druids and mages.
Literally.
This is wild hyperbole. Youâre not completely wrong, but the way you express your point is exaggerated. Plus, not that many classes could remove DP, and DP isnât the only reason to be undead. O.o Itâs one of many perks.
Itâs a chance to crit, and it wonât be âhugeâ lmaoâŚ
EDIT: âand youâll oom and dieâ câmon man.
DP also heals you and it double dips with VE It is a versatile effect with more than one use.
All in all I think you are too focused on PuRe DaMaGe StAtS to see the value of anything else. Shadow priests are damage dealers, yes, but they are hybrids first. Assuming equal gear, you are never going to nuke somebody down as a spriest, and youâre better off playing to your strengths.
Troll is best, you get shadowguard which is basically lightning shield except the damage it does is shadow and it PROCS Blackout stun.
Nothing beats having a rogue open on you and he stuns himself from your shield.
I saw you say the crit wouldnât be huge and stopped there, you have no idea how shadow priests work sorry Iâm not wasting my time with you.
Also just saying this again, you can swoon over DPs minimal damage and healing all you want, itâs not sticking on a target for longer than 2 seconds in a bg. Amazing ability LOL
Overpowered, thatâs how they are.
I wrote you off right away because you only phrase things in LITERALLY ABSOLUTE HYPERBOLE so thatâs probably for the best. Have fun in your bubble.
All the 2k heroâs swooning over DP and not understanding how good troll is.
I guess undead really is the true noob trap.