How about a portal from docks to Great Seal

But that’s not fun. :crazy_face:

“Horde Bias”

It’s no different from having a table in Argus with no way to recruit… (still doesn’t make sense, but it’s def. not the first time they’ve done this.)

Just glad I didn’t waste my OR for the table in the seal.

The horde city in BFA. Is not that bad… But what irritates Me Too! Holy heak in this game…
Their maps suck… It took me a good couple of minutes to figure out jewel craft is below the city…

A billion dollar company and their mapping is atrocious… People in the 1800s had better maps then what wow provides

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That dumb pyramid may end up being the greatest (by that I mean worst) time sink Blizzard has ever invented.

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Meh, I figured it wouldn’t be terribly useful, but really, none of the outpost upgrades are. I had over 20k resources on my main here at the time and really was just tired of seeing all the upgrade missions cluttering the mission list all the time. I bought em all.

I’m sure they’ll finally make the trip between the Seal and the docks more convenient and less ridiculous just in time for flying.

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Add a port from inside the great seal to the boat, problem solved.

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On all 6 of my Horde characters, I have the hearth set to the Great Seal and I have the ring for the dock port.

Well, there’s the permanent Bwob Zombie buff (because really what other choice did they give us?) but other than that, yeah. Still, I have used the ettin and the caravan a couple times…

Yeah they need to add an indicator to the mini-map that shows if an npc is a floor above or below you.

It’s been made more convenient since its inception. Take a Pa’ku totem from Great Seal to the crafters area, and if you want to go further, take another Pa’ku totem from crafter’s area to the Brutosaur vendor platform, and then you mount up and you’re at the docks/boat in another 15s.

Yeah, I have Paku. Meanwhile in Boralus, the Alliance have everything in their city less than ten seconds away on foot. Alliance, if you’re ever interested in what it’s like to play Horde in BfA, dismount and walk (actually switch to walking) whenever you’re in town.

Pretty much all this. Warning language.

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So Alliance got lazy design where everything is within 20s of each other, and Horde actually got design to the culture of the race, but instead Horde is the bad design and Alliance is the good (read: lazy) design ?

OK, I’ll take the bad design over lazy any day.

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I second this, having faction changed just to get kul tirans. though even though they focused on form with DZAL, from a purely aesthetic standpoint I prefer boralus, because even though Suramar is technically the most “lived in” city, boralus captures that feeling in essence. For whatever reason boralus feels like a real, living, breathing, and inhabited city in a way that is unparalleled to any other wow capital

Yes but the Paku system is very unintuitive, and requires you to remember the pathing to make efficient use of them.

Honestly they should just stick a giant catapult on the side opposite the flight master that shoots you between spots real fast, that would be cool

I dunno, I kinda like the look and feel of Boralus, a ramshackle port of call with lots of nooks and crannies, narrow alleyways. The only thing that’s slightly separate is the PvP vendor and the hair salon. Proudmoore Keep is a FP apart but there’s nothing out there except for occasional WQs and war campaign NPCs to talk to.

Dazar’alor looks visually amazing, but they really could’ve compressed it a bit so the backside of the Great Seal led directly down to the port. Plus our PvP vendor is a FP away, and why they stuck 2 profession trainers (enchant and JC IIRC) in a no-mount cellar when all the rest are clustered topside is baffling.

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Me trying to figure out if I can survive a little more fall damage trying to skip the stairs on the way down:

Alliance got useful design.

Horde got tedious design.

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In no way is boralus’s design lazy, functional does not equal lazy.

It just makes good use of what one would call a central hub. The difference between boralus and dezar is that boralus has one hub, and dezar has two.

It would be perfectly reasonable from a design standpoint to descentralize services completely, but first off, that’s not what they did, they clearly designed these cities to intentionally have hubs, and second the geographically larger and harder to traverse city is the one with two hubs rather than being the one that only has one, it just doesn’t make sense.

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It is horde bias. We get a nice scenic route on the way to places we have to go. It’s worth the extra time wasted…

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The favorite thing about my DH alt and my engineer. Sadly, I had to shelve both due to work. But I still have my feathery spell thread on my hunter…of all classes. (Glad the tailoring that goes with my enchanting is actually good for something).