Hot Take: Getting Rid Of GDKPs Was A Mistake (Part 1)

playing the game isn’t the same as playing the system,

some trying to play the system, we’re playing on it.

LOL talking about breaking guilds and wants GDKPs.

What a :clown_face:

THis is why GDKPs are banned. You people are a cancer to this game that needed to be removed.

Good riddance.

Yeah, when we want the opinion of a proven to be terrible player, we will ask. Your opinion means nothing when your idea of playing the end game is just gear simulator. Its fine, you quit during the later phases because the raids are undoable for you anyway.

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???

Tell me why afk buyers is the #1 advert for gdkps?

Its not, the #1 thing gdkp organizers look at is parses. Unless you mean the jaja trade chat scams claiming to be gdkp’s, if thats what you’re talking about then lol

:joy: :joy:

No it’s not.

It’s gold :joy: :joy:

These pro gdkpers are cooked

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Sorry you ran with Phillipines gold sellers in TBC, but thats not how the majority work.

Dude I’ve been on pagle. I understand your viewpoint but it’s way off the norm.

Yeah, and pagle has tons of organized gdkp’s, and all the main servers won’t even let you see signups without a 70+ average or higher

still gdkps even if you dont claim them

No, scams ran by overseas gold sellers don’t count for anything.

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Yeah theres like 4 people on Pagle. No one cares about a dead pve server.

Go on a high pop pvp server where things matter and you will see the difference.

This is wrong for a lot of people.

Gear is a means to perform. Most I know want to perform. If you could do the same with 0 gear, gear would mean nothing. If all you care about it purples because they look cool, then why would it matter if a GKP existed? Just go to your guild run and get the gear instead.

GKP doesn’t break the game in any way, it’s the best PUG experience.
It encourages performance (less or no gold if you come and do nothing)
It rewards top performers (usually through an incentive or ‘bonus’
It allows for proper filtering of players/performance. Which allows the runs to generally be ‘better’ for all.

If you run a standard MS/OS you often see 10 people carrying the other 30, yet those 30 still get the exact same shot and the raid takes twice as long because there is no incentive to perform, or be anything other than a bot.

It’s clear that people like you have never been in a GKP or been apart of the scene to understand any of this.

You see RMT and whinge because you think GKP is the sole contributor. WHen in fact ERA has proven that everyone buys gold regardless, and in fact without more PUGS (far more when GKP’s are around) and more toons to participate, less mats are farmed, less raids are done and overall less people get to enjoy the game.

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GDKP is terrible for the game and why it’s banned.

Sorry :person_shrugging:

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So why is “lf fresh / afk buyers” the #1 gdkp advertisement? Surely doesn’t encourage performance if you can just afk

Easily manipulated by the host. Give the people he knows no jobs in the raid, give competitors tasks to do.

Read point 1. The #1 phrase in gdkp advertisements is “lf fresh / afk buyers”

Almost asif everyone’s time is equal? Having a farmable / purchasable dkp opens it straight up to rmt.

It’s clear they have, and just have a much higher level of critical thinking. You are the only one describing things that don’t happen in gdkps.

No one has ever said this apart from gdkpers to try and gaslight people on the forums. Most critical thinkers can see that it was never the sole source, just the most demanding. No other items regularly go for gold cap, except when gdkps are relevant.

Can you show me where you got the data for less pugs? Because I have seen the exact opposite. More pugs, where you don’t have to flash 10k gold to the host.

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Bro you brought up pagle, same thing on Faerlina(they have the same pop btw lmao) you are so addicted to taking L’s its crazy

Actually you’re giving gold to people who can’t even farm gold properly, isn’t that a crutch for bad players?

Not to mention selling gear to asocial people who can’t even manage social connections in a guild, heck blacklisted jerks everyone on the server hates could get gear for money.

Carries are carries for bad players, not perfomance enhancers but easy gear for fake players to pretend they are good, including parse runs and gearing up for parse runs. and outright selling geared toons they used to inflate bids along the way.

scummy, downright slimeball even. and those gold-plated wannabes go on to be insufferable and claim everyone is bad while they flail about with gear they didn’t earn and blame everyone else for not being taken seriously.

Makes it harder to tell who is a real gamer and invalidates ratings when they are for sale. bad for everyone. just like the people who brag about mythic runs haha no one cares, if it was really that good you would be satisfied and not need everyone else to prop up your ego for you. certainly not a website that’s main goal is promoting full bis full world buff and consume overkill to support gold farming and string people along for as many bought runs a possible.

this is why it falls apart when you ask them to mention what they enjoyed about it, nothing, they are skipping enjoyment for the illusion of success. insecure. weak-willed, no type of gamer.

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Everything you said is also true about guilds letting bad players in and carrying them.

I’ll make it easy, no one who is playing classic is a real gamer

Ah yes the old everyone is bad so I’m not bad excuse, just like with RMT everyone does it so its okay that I do. No it isn’t, stop living down to the lowest common denominator and making excuses for being terrible.

I’m off to work, do some more flailing about how you are somehow better than everyone and everyone is bad.

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Theres no excuse, I never said any of those things, just that the game is so incredibly easy that the difference between top 1% and bottom 1% is extremely small