The logic is sound
The “anti” crowd spouts the same proven false RMT argument over and over.
Funny that GDKP is essentially the same as an auction, but y’all have no problem with the AH. Which btw promotes RMT wayyyyyy more than GDKP ever could.
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I have said many times ban the AH trading and other things. Get rid of all the avenues RMT uses period
You can literally go onto a server that allows gdkps and look at their adverts.
“Lf afk buyers and fresh buyers”
They are seeking rmt and not even trying to hide it.
Gdkp is nothing like the AH.
Let me know when you can buy 620+ BiS items off the AH 
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Playing WoW promotes RMT.
Should we all stop playing to get rid of RMT? 
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ah so your argument is mmos have rmt so please blizzard I just want my cut. you can easily get rid of RMT but none of you want to do that idea you just want your cut of the cheating. more circular arguments
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lol, lmao even.
Wonder why blizz hasn’t done it yet? 
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cause you people will cry. Not my fault you guys dont actually want to solve the issue
never once said this I said GDKPs allow for people to use illicit gold and the “legit” players get illcit gold as a reward for using their time. and I have said many many times ban AH and trading. the narrow take is reverting the gdkp ban so you can get your share of illicit gold even if you didnt know about it
Just saying, since ignoring the AI spam bot my feed has been 100x better
Oh, fantastic. Another ChatGPT-generated wisdom bomb, confidently thrown into the internet like it’s solving Blizzard’s problems with the power of generic tech jargon. You can almost hear the AI-generated enthusiasm as it declares that “these steps would make a significantly larger impact,” as if Blizzard’s entire security strategy has just been waiting for a chatbot to drop the answer.
Honestly, you’ve got to admire the sheer confidence in suggesting government ID requirements like they’re a totally normal and feasible idea. Yeah, Blizzard will definitely force everyone to submit official documents just to log in. That sounds like something they’ll roll out right after they decide to balance Enhancement Shamans for fun.
And of course, there’s the classic assumption that region locking would magically wipe out botting and RMT forever. Yes, because clearly, separating US and Canadian players into different servers is the secret key Blizzard has been missing all these years. Brilliant.
Look, ChatGPT is handy for crafting these copy-paste authoritative tones, but maybe cool it a bit when trying to sound like an expert on Blizzard’s security infrastructure. This isn’t some utopian MMORPG where a handful of tech buzzwords erase bad actors overnight.
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Bumping because blizzard is looking for feedback on the change as stated here:
But is actively nuking threads giving feedback on why this change was a mistake.
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Not only are they nuking threads with players providing feedback they are also hiding them so players aren’t aware and can’t see just how many people have provided feedback wanting them to return.
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3 players wanting them to return really isn’t that many in the grand scheme of things
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Your post relies more on mockery than actual argumentation, but let’s break down the core flaws:
- Government ID for Account Security Isn’t “Absurd” – Many online games and services already implement stronger verification methods to combat botting and fraud. South Korea requires national ID verification for online gaming, and other platforms use phone number authentication. Acting like Blizzard could never consider enhanced security measures is disingenuous.
- Region Locking Has Worked in Other Games – While not a perfect solution, regional segmentation has successfully reduced botting in other MMOs. China has separate WoW servers, and companies like Riot Games region-lock accounts to curb cross-region abuse. Blizzard implementing something similar wouldn’t be unprecedented.
- Mocking Doesn’t Replace Evidence – Instead of providing actual counterpoints, you rely on sarcastic dismissals. That’s not an argument—that’s just avoidance.
- Your Credibility is Nonexistent – You’re replying almost exclusively to my posts while hiding behind a level 16 alt. This pattern of behavior suggests you’ve been previously banned and are now dodging accountability. If you had a genuine argument, why not engage transparently?
Security solutions may not be perfect, but dismissing every idea with exaggerated ridicule doesn’t make you right—it just makes you loud.
Suggesting that Blizzard should start demanding government IDs for WoW account security is wildly out of touch. Yes, South Korea and a handful of other services lean on national verification, but WoW’s core audience would riot at the thought of mailing in their driver’s license every time they log on. If your idea of “improved security” is Kafkaesque paperwork, you might be conflating anti-bot measures with Cold War surveillance tactics.
As for region locking, sure it “works” in theory; just ask every guild split in half because Aunt Sue got ping-banned by an IP block. China’s segregated servers exist for a very particular market and not because Blizzard woke up one day thinking global community was overrated. Forcing EU players off Oceanic servers won’t stop bots; it will simply hollow out international friendships and generate endless support tickets.
Mockery does not replace evidence. Fine, here’s some: two-factor authentication, machine-learning bot detection and targeted CAPTCHA challenges are already industry staples and far less disruptive than your sweeping proposals. If you want to see what actually reduces fraud, you do not need to reinvent the wheel or grind through bureaucracy; you just implement proven solutions without turning the game into a DMV.
Regarding your credibility gripe and hiding behind an alt, I assure you that my leveling habits have zero bearing on the strength of these arguments. If you are so fixated on identities, maybe you are afraid that your own proposals cannot survive scrutiny on their merits. Until you come armed with real data instead of melodramatic cautionary tales, all you have is noise.
Probably because you guys keep breaking the rules in them lol. It’s better to have one thread anyway to consolidate feedback.
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Your dismissal of enhanced security measures—specifically, the idea of incorporating government-issued ID verification—is rooted in hyperbole rather than fact. While you paint such proposals as “Kafkaesque” and draconian, the reality is that Blizzard already employs similar measures when needed (for instance, requiring government-issued IDs for account recovery). We’re operating in a digital ecosystem where robust identity verification is not only common but essential. Let’s break down your counterpoints:
- On Government ID Verification Being “Out of Touch”:
- Your Claim: Requiring government IDs would lead to a Kafkaesque, burdensome process that alienates WoW’s core audience.
- Rebuttal: In practice, Blizzard already requires government-issued IDs to recover an account under certain circumstances. This isn’t about forcing players to “mail in their driver’s license” with every login—it’s about having a secure fallback. The idea that Blizzard doesn’t possess ample personal data is flawed. We’re playing in an internet-connected game where companies already hold extensive information. This proposed measure would merely formalize practices that are, in many cases, already in place.
- On Region Locking and Its Impact on Community:
- Your Claim: Forcing region locking (even hypothetically) would fracture guilds, create support nightmares, and is impractical—highlighted by your reference to issues like “Aunt Sue got ping-banned.”
- Rebuttal: While concerns about community fragmentation are valid if region locking were to be implemented wholesale without finesse, selective application could be a powerful tool against abusive behavior. Thoughtful, localized measures can reduce bot activity without necessarily breaking global ties. It’s not about banning entire regions; it’s about targeted efforts to mitigate fraud and RMT in areas where they’re rampant.
- On Existing Security Measures Versus “Sweeping Proposals”:
- Your Claim: Established tools like two-factor authentication, machine-learning bot detection, and CAPTCHA challenges are sufficient and less intrusive than what I’m suggesting.
- Rebuttal: There’s no argument against proven security tools; however, adding a layer of identity verification—especially in critical account recovery scenarios—can bolster overall security. This isn’t about reinventing the wheel but about ensuring that when disputes or abuse occur, Blizzard can confidently verify a player’s identity. It’s a complementary measure to existing practices, not a wholesale overhaul.
- On Mockery and Personal Credibility:
- Your Claim: You suggest that mocking or highlighting my “ChatGPT-inspired” tone replaces real data and that my credibility is questionable because of personal leveling habits.
- Rebuttal: The focus here is not on personal leveling habits but on the systemic security issues at hand. Critiquing proposals on the grounds of being overly alarmist or “melodramatic” does not substitute for addressing the underlying fact: that Blizzard already collects and relies on verified identity data for account recovery. Discounting this reality with sarcastic dismissals doesn’t refute the practicality of enhanced identity verification—it merely avoids engaging with the evidence.
In sum, insisting that government ID measures are absurd ignores the fact that Blizzard already utilizes them when necessary. We’re not talking about burdening players at every login; we’re discussing a secure, verifiable fallback in our digital age. Rather than rejecting these proposals out of hand with hyperbole, it’s more productive to recognize that as an internet-connected game, WoW already operates with extensive user data. Enhanced verification isn’t about turning the game into a bureaucracy—it’s about protecting accounts and ensuring that genuine players aren’t exploited.
its you and a few other people.
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I cannot believe people are STILL whining about this. They’ve heard your feedback. You aren’t going to get your way. This isn’t feedback anymore. It has become incessant whining from people who cannot conceive of the reality that they won’t always get their way.
Move on.
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