Horde should retake the Red Dragonflight and turn them against the alliance

I have stated quite clearly that unless there’s actual lore supporting your position, that all you’ve got are assumptions and headcanon.

This isn’t the forum to discuss assumptions and headcanon. We’re here to discuss canon lore. Show me the canon lore that supports your position. All you have are maps in the Chronicle. That’s it. You’ve got nothing more than that. And a map isn’t enough evidence to support claims of genocide.

Genocide requires intent to wipe out a population, in whole or in part. Fighting a race in a war and taking their territory when they lose is not genocide.

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I hope you didn’t take my argument as an attack against your personal worldviews, Lahil. Regardless of our own discussion yours are perfectly valid to hold and your perspective, likes and wants are legitimate. If I ever came off that way unintentionally I apologize for my crassness.

To put it in a singular sentence: I just enjoy the aspect of how organic it is to have multiple races having different moralities and because of such interactions spurred on throughout the story engenders their own parables, which can likely be hit or miss because of its methodology, but also makes those that are able to impact, impact heavier.

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Oh no not at all!
I’m so desensitized from people actually having personal attacks against me on these forms that I wouldn’t even notice even if you did :stuck_out_tongue:

But I understand where you are coming from, it’s been to each their own kind of thing. :slight_smile:

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pot meet kettle.
edit: You have spent the past few years calling for the genocide of the races that you do not like. You have been defending and promoting an idea of an ubermensch Horde. You are legit the last person in this forum that should critique others over genocide.

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The races I prefer are actual native to Azeroth. Humans, dwarfs and Gnomes are literally alien robots.

Dwarves were literally made from the Earth itself.

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Titanforged were made by Titans, On behalf of the (theoretically) proto-Titan in the core of the planet. Calling them alien robots is a bit of a stretch don’t you think? Also Orcs are by far more alien than the Titanforged are… so there is that.

Draenei are aliens too. Yet the alliance welcomed them with open arms.

I mean, is there a reason they shouldn’t have?

Besides looking like their Man’ari cousins in the legion?

Yes, besides that.

None that I can think of. Just the whole Man’ari thing should have made the alliance extremely hesitant to accept them as quick as they did. But that’s me. :dracthyr_heart: :dracthyr_nod:

Fair enough.

Ultimately, it seems Alliance made the choice without letting that detail influence the decision. Whether out of ignorance or design, it seemed to be the correct choice.

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True, although it does seem a tad… inconsistent.

Seems like sometimes Alliance is welcoming to newcomers yet pushes away people who you’d think would be more in line with their faction.

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you say genocide…you mean massarce. When I say genocide, its an actual genocide.

But please keep comparing apples to oranges.

No, when I say genocide, it’s a genocide.

A genocide is an attempt to wipe out a people, in whole or in part. When the Dwarves wiped out the Stonespire Tribe. That was a genocide, as they intentionally wiped out the entire tribe, save for one survivor who got away.

When the Siege of Dazar’alor occurred, the Dark Irons were attempting to kill civilians, the goal of some of the Alliance soldiers was the elimination of the Zandlari trolls, that also constitutes a genocide.

Post your source.

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I’m sorry but the current horde isn’t the old horde. This would be a bad plot.

The old Horde was the better Horde. Thrall’s misfit company of idiots isn’t worth the effort.

You mean the one that blew up its own home planet and ended up in internment camps until Thrall freed them? That one?

Yeah, they did swell.

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