too many shamans
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There’s one reason! It would prevent people who are playing horde from rerolling Alliance. Hmm, now that I type it out, it doesn’t sound very reasonable.
There’s nothing about balance, for me, that stands out in BGs right now. I haven’t been queueing because I’m either busy doing other things, or I remember how terrible it feels to get matchmade with teammates who call to lose the game on purpose.
I don’t want to argue with my own teammates, and I don’t want to be matchmade with people who aren’t going to actually play the game, so…
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Been trying to make my shaman on lone wolf. Factions always locked tho. I guess we know whos the majority there.
Just checked chaos bolt horde locked there too.
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AB’s q’s are like 30secs - 1min max on horde. what are you talking about?
Lone Wolf: 380 Horde guilds cleared Gnomeregan 6/6, 414 alliance guilds.
WCL shows horde slightly over the alliance there: 51,3% vs 48,7% alliance.
The faction lock is based on unique accounts with character creation, including bots. Bots usually creating new accounts shift the faction lock to one side and another.
Chaos Bolt US is the opposite:
57% alliance vs 43% horde, based on IronforgePro data (collected from WCL): 74 alliance guilds 6/6, 57 Horde guilds 6/6.
Alliance has 54% of overall US population (including AU) vs Horde with 46%.
If you know math from school, you know what majority means.
You’re welcome.
Today on prime time, queues for AB were over 15 minutes, outside of Blood Moon time.
Thank your for user submitted third party data. The devs faction balance says your wrong.
Bots go where its most profitable so yeah theres probably more bots because more market available for them.
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Nah, you deserve long queues. Call it a consequence of rolling the PvP faction as the Horde is often referred to as. You cannot deny having known such due to its ubiquity.
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Blizzard fault, I’d never pug with alliance they are all pve peasants. And why even do AB, crap gear and honor, much easier to farm the stv event.
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horde want to keep making excuses why and never want to blame the reason, we all know why its because of shamans being broken and stacked in bgs, its because alliance players have re rolled horde because of this meaning more horde queuing, but forum wants to keep making excuses for shamans and telling people to just git gud, well enjoy your 15min queues with the denial. edit: 40second ab queues for alliance lol
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Just as you are not affected by the power of Shaman, Stun resist, WotF and so on.
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the reason for this is because im pretty sure they try to queue premades together first and if they cant find a premade for the group on opposing faction they then just queue them into “regular” bgs, like an oh well we tried, alliance not queuing means they are being queued into solo queuers making the shaman cluster F even worse to play against.
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It’s an opt out. It’s zero fun to play against shamans dominating the game on top of the already crazy racials.
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WoWTavern and WCL show that there are significantly more Horde players on every PvP server than Alliance - to the point that Horde creation has been locked/limited since week1 January. It’s amazing that you mention the one specific case of Alliance dominant on the non-high pop server, but ignore Crusader Strike - the highest population PvP server in the game - being 61% Horde. Guess that’s just a convenient accident; surely you didn’t deliberately try to misrepresent statistics when they didn’t favor you. Right?
PvE servers are alliance dominated. WG is 60-something % Alliance.
This isn’t some messiah of “muh green booger master race super pvp giga chad kingdom” - it’s that in the current gamestate Horde have tremendously, over-whelmingly, and dominantly easy access of map economy. You have 5 dungeons right outside of your premier downs that are all self-same flagged to just yourself. You have a raid portal directly to the instance from your premier capita; Alliance did not get that. Alliance had to fly → boat → port.
Getting to everywhere currently relevant to the game is an unbelievable amount easier as Horde. Couple that with having a flight path in STV, and a zepp from your front door to the middle of the area? Even the meme pvp kids can’t deny that every single solitary thing in the 1-40 bracket is slanted to Horde. In a gamestate of meme balance, goofy alt rerolls, FOTM chasing, etc - people want the easiest 1-40 process possible. What gives that? Horde. RFC 13-17, WC 17-22, SFK 22-27, RFK 27-30, SM 30-40… All inside Horde territory, with Horde flagging, Horde flight points, Horde everything. Every Horde rune is easier in comparison to Alliance equal/opposite. Heck, even getting your world buffs are easier than Alliance. 1s for a flight to TB 2mins away? Versus… 6min flight + 3-10 minute boat to get to Darnassus? and that’s only after you’ve run through the level 25~ mobs to get the flight path? Everything. Every single thing. Ev. Ery. Thing. is slanted for horde advantage atm in these phases. It’s amazing people are playing Alliance at all - have you ever tried running from Stormwind to Desolace? Stormwind → IF → DM → LM → Wetlands → Boat → Darkshore → Ashenvale → Stonetalon → Desolace ? It’s like a 45 minute run. Know how long it takes on Horde? like 4mins as any race.
That’s not even to acknowledge the insanity that is PvP racials like Berserking, Blood Fury, War Stomp, Meme of the Forsaken, Hardiness, etc. PvP servers are dominated by the faction systemically designed to give a massive advantage to one faction - PvE servers are dominated by the equal-but-opposite counterpart that doesn’t need PvP racials.
That doesn’t even touch on the fact that Shamans are the hands-down most over the top broken class in the entire game atm.
If you in any capacity believe that it’s a “skill issue” that “I need an advantage, and have to win no matter what.” mentality players pick Horde 100% of the time in classic-era settings… The skill issue exists between your headphones.
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Ignorance is a bliss, isn’t it.
Oh, this game of shame again. Well, sadly for you Devs already know how to fix this and they have the fix already implemented in Classic WoW since TBC Classic. It will be on sooner than you think.
It doesn’t matter.
There is just one big pool and it includes all NA located realms, regardless of being PvP or PvE. PvE realm players also do queue for BG, and they do queue in the same pool we do.
So, please, stop with this straw man argument. It is unbecoming and beneath even the likes of you.
If this where true, it wouldn’t remotely explain why only solo horde are getting extreme queu timers, and queuing with between 2-5 people don’t.
This is either a bug, or blizzard is INTENTIONALLY throttling horde solo queu players in a separate queu system, similar to premades over 5
Delusion is bliss i would say for you. You think blizz has some hatred for the horde and are purposly making ally the bigger faction? What purpose does that serve. Try taking your tin foil hat off once in a while.
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Thanks for your diary. We appreciate and hope you get happily ever after.
now your cutting quotes to feed your narrative? You seem to do that alot. Only take the information you want to believe and push it as fact and totally disregard my argument that derails your delusion train
Just fix the matchmaking bug where horde 5 man have a 1 min queue and solo players 15 mins.
That’s the core issue and it snowballs because alliance pugs are tired of being matched against horde premades so they stop tagging.
Fixing this should be high priority idk why it’s taking so long.
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