Wonder why that is.
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Look at the bright side: The A Plot stuff always mangles characters and breaks the lore in infuriating ways. The high resolution content—zones and side quests—are usually (but not always) good to great.
All of the A Plot stuff = Alliance characters and storylines.
All of the B Plot stuff = mostly Horde characters and storylines.
So we’ll probably have fun stuff centered on Eversong and ZA, then brain leaking stuff happening with Alleria, Xal’atath, Turalyon, etc.
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Probably because most of the horde players prefer pretty barbie alliance hand-me-down race over the original horde races, so it’s easier to market Bael’dael’kael’thalanas the elf over Burp the greenskin. And there simply is only just so many blood elf / nightborne characters you can introduce, so Alliance has to carry the rest of the burden.
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They aren’t focusing most of the story on the Blood Elves or Nightborne they have though. It’s Alleria and family.
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Alleria is literally not in any of the leveling content at this point.
Probably because most of the horde players prefer pretty barbie alliance hand-me-down race over the original horde races,
Quick reminder here that blood and night elves represent roughly the same proportion of their respective factions’ toons - i.e. roughly a third.
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Even if this were true (which it is not), Midnight doesn’t really prominently feature its established Horde elves as protagonists in comparison to the Alliance elves - Alleria remains a key figure since TWW, and Arator (who they want us to believe is a neutral figure, but c’mon now) is the main face of the expac.
The Horde elves serve as facilitators for the plot at most (like Lor’themar, Rommath, Halduron, Liadrin, etc), and many of them are just nowhere to be found - Thalyssra, who is literally the wife of Silvermoon’s Regent Lord, is relegated to just standing in their private quarters, and the Nightborne presence in Midnight is slim to none - especially in comparison to the Void Elves, who are ALSO Alliance elves.
So no, I’m afraid your claim doesn’t hold any water, given they didn’t even attempt to make a Horde elf a protagonist of a story that takes place in a Horde setting. And it’s not an isolated issue at this point either. Legion focused primarily on the Kaldorei and Draenei’s history with the Burning Legion, even though the Orcs also suffered them. Shadowlands treated the Forsaken’s leaderless plight as an afterthought in comparison to how much it gave the Night Elves, even though their old leader was the antagonist of the expac. The War Within pitched that Thrall would be a major part of things, and ultimately he was just present while characters like Anduin or Alleria moved the plot - he had no story of his own.
I think we’re well past making excuses or blaming the audience for these things, and it’s high time we just accepted that the current guard doesn’t know how to write a story that places the Horde in focus as the protagonists without using the Alliance as a crutch, or they’re uninterested in doing so.
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that’s great.
will let turalyon, vereesa, anduin, and arator know.
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We also already know Alleria’s going to be in the Voidstorm zone. I don’t know why people are even pretending she won’t be involved just because that zone isn’t available for testing yet.
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People pretending to be stupid for the sake of adopting argumentative stances is what these forums and arguably the entire internet runs on.
‘uhhh, uhhhhhh, you can’t PROVE i don’t think that. now you have to argue against this nakedly dumb idea, neener neener neener’
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Everyone that’s been paying actual attention and not trying to make bad arguments know that this is Alleria’s arc. And that Xalatath is her nemesis. And for some reason I have to also deal with her hard-headed husband and her son as well. She absolutely will appear later in the expac. They didn’t focus on her in TWW and the prologue to TWW and Midnight for nothing.
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Problem is there are a group of people that aren’t pretending to be stupid. Some are just that dumb sadly.
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The argument was baldly, inconceivably stupid in the first place.
The thread isn’t “Horde patches/expansions revolve around Alleria.”
It’s that they revolve around Alliance characters.
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I am partial to the unintended fact that Alleria and Turalyon are so toxic for one another that Arator’s first act upon reuniting with them was to move somewhere he had never been that they couldn’t easily visit.
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And Arator was being rebellious during the intial phase of void invasion by not listening to his father. But he was gladly taking and following orders from Lorth’emar.
But, I think it’s more meant to show that Arator has a good head on his shoulders and is willing to do the right thing while Turalyon doesn’t always think of the consequences of his actions
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It kinda seems like turalyon is a good soldier but a terrible father, which is also compounded by the fact that you don’t just get a bond with someone when you’ve missed all their life achievments.
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I knew it was gonna have Alleria again because Xal (my beloved) is involved. But it doesnt change the fact I wish I didn’t have to witness their family drama. I’m not interested in Alleria, nor her MHP husband (No offence, Grandblade) nor her son. Ok, to be fair, maybe, just maybe Arator will be an interesting character in Midnight, but I’m not holding my breath.
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So why the heck is the story still not about them then instead of alleria’s family?
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Arator is gonna be Anduin but he runs away from daddies instead of collecting them like Pokémon.
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Eversong is unfortunately a testament to this. Its blood elf worldbuilding in the zone design and local stories is phenomenal, yet Arator and Umbric dominate its A plot to the point where the place feels like window dressing for the progression of these Alliance characters’ stories. I know they’re trying to push Arator as a neutral figure and an honorary blood elf but it hasn’t quite landed yet IMO.
They get it so right in ZA with Zul’jarra/Zul’jan (protagonists) and Liadrin (deuteragonist), and again in Harandar with Orwenya (protagonist) and Halduron (deuteragonist), that Eversong’s distribution of character focus stands out as flawed. If ever a zone warranted blood elf protagonists, it was Eversong Bloody Woods; their cast doesn’t take point until its third act, and even that gives way to Windrunner family drama.
It’s especially galling after Voidstorm, which is a void elf love letter starring the same two Alliance guys we accompanied through most of Eversong (and, of course, Alleria).
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Actually wrong
The total sum of non-Belf Horde is larger than Belf Horde
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