Horde is Superior in Every Aspect, Change my mind

A small sample size of beta streamers on a temporary realm is not a good example. Private server stats indicate alliance dominate PvP and PvE. Plus they all got stomped in WSG by Esfand and his pally army when it was released last week, it was embarrassing seeing so many retail pvpers get stomped by a group of alliance pve’rs. Even Soda was saying alliance seems like the way to go as they will have shorter queue times, at least until the retail horde players realize alliance was superior in Vanilla. This is coming from a horde fan boy who has played horde since TBC, but I will be going alliance in vanilla again just like I did the first time.

Edit: not to mention the AV map being alliance favored in vanilla to top it off.

Not sure how it will be when classic comes but I got tired of alliance being terrible at PVP when I played it for most of wow.

Alliance:

  • Excellent
  • Evolved Trolls
  • Access to the best city in the game, Ironforge
  • Diverse, excellent capital cities
  • Darnassus is literally a giant tree house
  • Dwarves
  • Better faction icon, cool lion vs some junk an artist doodled on a napkin while deciding what Alliance character he was going to make
  • Superior at AV
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Arthas was a crybaby trying to prove something. We say good riddance and don’t forget we killed him in Wrath, we clean up our messes.

Horde literally teamed up with the scourge.

Oh I cant wait for classic to dispel all these allusions of alliance grandeur.

News flash During the last bit of Vanilla more alliance guilds went to horde for quality raiders and pvpers. It was all the rage back in 2005. The forums were lit with alliance players begging blizzard to combined realms cause everyone was switching to horde.

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Yeah this is why horde got world first in vanilla on every raid and alliance didn’t despite having a bigger playerbase.

Horde aggressive racials and shamans help them forcibly push past the alliance defensive racials and slow Paladin agro.

your delusions are hilarious. the only reasons that everyone went to horde was eventually all the best raiding racials ended up on horde. after years and years of nerfing every man for himself for humans all the best pvpers left for the horde too.

but OK keep trying to troll people.

No…no…I’ve never seen something so wrong lol

Alliance have the vast majority of world first boss kills in vanilla, but horde have the majority of world first final boss kills, so this is factually incorrect unless you are referring only to the final boss. Horde has WF Rag/C’thun/KT, but basically every other boss in vanilla was WF alliance.

So you’re changing the definition of established terms to fit your statement.

Just stop…

Honestly with Trolls being the best fury prot tanks in the game. I doubt the alliance will get any world first after MC

Horde is superior in every aspect (in retail) because everyone wants to play a Blood Elf, and Blizzard hands them the best racials in the game.

The Alliance in Vanilla has always been superior in its own right back in the day, and will continue to do so.

MAGA

MAKE THE ALLIANCE GREAT AGAIN!

There was no definition laid out beyond “world first”. World first boss kill means means world first boss kill, and alliance had >75% of world first boss kills in vanilla. World first full clear goes to horde and I am not denying that, Nihilum was the best of the best back in the day.

Didn’t know you could world first a raid without killing the final boss

The alliance safety nets fear ward, salvation and defensive racials helped years ago when mechanics were new.

Now the content is known and Horde aggression will be shown as superior

I guess it’s good to let the Alliance have the #1 spot in Classic since TBC and beyond just kick starts the road to irrelevance, with that one last hoorah that is EMFH keeping PvP alive.

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Okay, fam.

I’ll definitely take your word on that one.

People knowing mechanics now have nothing to do with racials on our side being less useful now, the actual reason why people might move Horde is because of the number people who’ve played Classic as Alliance already.

Most people will go towards the Alliance anyway because you don’t have Blood Elves carrying you in Retail.

Yeah, Paladin buffs are objectively better than those. And this is coming from a horde player.

Anyone who says Shaman are more valuable than Paladins when it comes to raiding isn’t interested in having a reasonable discussion. Horde are better in many ways, this isn’t one of them.

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Why are you people arguing about world firsts, 99% of you aren’t going to raid past MC

Oh gosh…they really have their own little streamer’s world going on. Why would anyone follow any of these guys around is beyond me…

Most don’t realize just how hard raiding in vanilla was. All kinds of needed cc and group pulls were next to unheard of in raiding.