I appreciate the teams are working to make things better for people. It’s very heartening to see such a robjust response and so full a statement. Good job. I wish it was in service of a better system.
This entire Honor system while beloved of many is…less than useful or desirable to me. I am disabled and have all the time in the world to play if I want so it is not a time issue.
The problem is that competition for the higher ranks is inheriently designed to reward people that clearly are not playing equitably with others. One account being run by multiple people to farm honor to achieve the higher ranks, feeding of groups of players to a small number of players for same, camping raid/dungeon/city entrances for hours on end making it miserable for lower levels players that can’t fight back.
It is a system that has bred in it’s bones “get the bigger number any way you can” and as such is…simply boring to me.
I love the DR and dishonorable kills system as they should encourage people to play and have fun and not grief. I always thought that people who have bypassed DR should instead start to award dishnorable kills unless they attack first. I have also always believed that DR should kick in much faster based on level difference.
I guess in the end without a daily cap on hours in pvp that counts the entire system is rigged in favor of those that cheat and I’m not interested. Also without actual in game conesequences for what I consider griefing I find myself at the same place. I know “care bear” “just a bad having bad opinions” “whiny pve’er that just does not get it” I’ve heard it all. So call out the hounds, attack the playes and not the thoughts if it makes you feel better.
Had 400 Honor Kills Monday night. They didn’t count towards last weeks honor, or this weeks honor so they’ve completely vanished again. Hopefully its just a “display bug” and will get fixed when y’all run the script again this Monday. This is very frustrating not knowing where I’m really at for honor last week and this week if hundreds and hundreds of HKs just vanished. I still have faith Blizz will fix it again. And I appreciate all the work you all are trying to do to resolve these issues. We need to get these display issues fixed soon. Really discouraging when you can’t track your own progression properly when its a rank based progression system.
My Honor calculations are still 20k less than what was earned last week… Two tickets later and the only responses I have received were to “post about it on the forums”. When will this be fixed?
I wanted to reiterate that on Monday night, December 2nd, the values for "Today, and "This Week" were displaying incorrect values as a result of our data repair job. The actual values being used for the weekly script were correct, but the display values are stored separately and were incorrect. The "Today" values were reset to 0 multiple times as the repair job executed, and the "This Week" values were showing numbers that were much too large, up to twice as large as they should have been. I apologize again for the confusion this caused.
It is also still true, even after our fixes, that if you are killing people just after the daily reset, (8:00 a.m. PT / 11:00 a.m ET in this region) you might appear to lose kills that occur as the daily job runs, even though you haven’t. The kills between 8:00 a.m. PT today, and the conclusion of the job are still recorded and will get picked up by the following day’s daily job.
Thank you again for your patience and understanding.
It’s not just after 8 am PT. And it doesn’t always get picked up by the next daily reset. I lost around 60 honor kills a few days ago and they have not been added into any of my daily or weekly totals. I almost always pvp between 2 am - 8 am PT because I live overseas, not after 8 am PT.
I DO believe they will be added in on the weekly reset if it is indeed only a display issue. But I just want to let you know that your information isn’t correct, and I hope that there is a fix coming for these display issues because it’s incredibly frustrating to not be able to correctly track your own progress.
The “incorrect values” are what exactly? The honor kills, total honor, or both? I look at how many kills i get daily, at no point did it seem to me that my kills just doubled over night by more then 400 kills. Did this doubling of “incorrect values” happen every day? If so how do you track the “correct values” and why don’t you just display those instead? I also use a mod to track my kills and honor because of the imperfect system, which led me to the conclusion my amount of honor kills were correct. Unless of course the mod also doesn’t have access to the “correct values” as we the players don’t and must rely solely on your word and not the actual information from the system. That is the only cause of confusion, from your end not ours.
Did somebody say, “What about the first two weeks?”
I’m glad you asked, because earlier today, we ran a repair script to fix the results of weeks 1 and 2, and that change should be visible to affected players now.
During weeks 1 and 2, as many of you have noted here, kills during certain time periods weren’t being counted in the daily roll-ups, which in turn caused them not to count toward your weekly standing. This resulted in players getting the wrong standing relative to one another, and the wrong amount of rank points. Some players got too many rank points, while others got too few.
Even if you didn’t get all your kills counted, you might have had a higher rank than you ought to, because somebody with a similar standing was missing even more kills (or higher value kills) than you were.
We had all the kills recorded, but because ranks are a result of relative standings, and each week is affected by previous weeks, we couldn’t just apply a repair for missing kills, we had to re-run the jobs for all 3 weeks to figure out what your correct ranking ought to be right now, and we did exactly that. We didn’t want to take anything away from anybody who might have been blissfully unaware of this problem, so after calculating the correct rank points for everybody in this region, we only adjusted the rank points of anybody who’s rank points were too low, to raise their ranking up to the point that it ought to be.
Now that that fix has been applied, we’re in a good state to head into battlegrounds.
So can anyone confirm their rank actually went up? Because I know I played the same as I did all 3 weeks and strangly rank 105, rank 26 and most likely like 35 this week
I gained 25% further into rank 6 the other day from this fix. Thanks! Hopefully the late night hours continue to count towards our actual totals from here on out!
I only gained 3% which was probably just like 1 standing higher, but since I didn’t pvp much during those time periods I didn’t expect much anyway. Thanks for the update.
Looks like the honor tab is still omitting BGs honor for this week. There’s about 20k honor that just disappeared from my honor tab yesterday. Others I’ve talked to are experiencing the same issue. I have created a separate thread on the bug report forum but this is really disconcerting.
If you mean honor from the ‘today’ section of the honor tab, the native system doesn’t display honor there at all. If you see any amount of honor in ‘today’ you are using an addon that is modifying the tab. Your complaint is with the addon.