Play HPAL warrior if you want to hate your life
I think the competition will be much tougher now.
You also might recall the wrong ratings as most people never touched 2k back then as it was really rare.
Holy Paladins are only OKAY in 5âs.
There are a variety of reasons why paladins are terrible in 2âs and 3âs. The big one being their lack of offensive dispels and escape ability. All they have is bubble and blessing of freedom, which is easily removed by priests. They also donât have kind of passive healing effect, which is huge in 2âs and 3âs and itâs easy to lock a holy paladin down from being an effective healer in 2âs and 3âs.
A holy paladin isnât even as good as a resto shaman in 3âs, because a resto shaman can at least play on very aggressive 3âs teams using blood lust and totems for power boosts while purging beneficial effects from the enemy team.
So at the end of the day Holy Paladin are really the worst healers in arena in TBC. That doesnât mean a good person canât do well on them. Theyâre just not as powerful for the formats as the other healers.
I agree to most of what you just said but Iâm not entirely sure about the dispel and mobility.
Druid have great mobility, but they donât have offensive dispel and canât dispel magic, only curse.
Priest have an offensive dispel, but they donât have anything for mobility. They can dispel magic but canât dispel curse.
Paladin donât have offensive dispel, have mobility buff for them or other, they can dispel magic but cannot dispel curse.
Shaman donât have mobility either (does ghost wolf really count itâs a 2 sec cast), they have an offensive dispel. they canât dispel curse and canât dispel mafic, only poison.
I mean when I look at it all classes lack of mobility, only druid has a real option for that.
Shaman ghost wolf in TBC is instant cast when spec(which all resto shamans get).
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Iâm not really much of a pvper but isnât pally less susceptible to CC with bubble + trinket, whereas other healers just have trinket?
Unfortunately no you would think so though but no.
Look at who the top comps are. Any priest can remove his bubble.
Blessing of sacrifice can be dispelled and now it has a cool down.
Flash of light is not good in PvP so he has to stand there and cast a 2.5 second eel to actually heal anybody which is easily the single easiest heel to interrupt.
They have no other forms of healing besides that
I mean, if we look it this way, Priest and Druids are susceptible to the same problem.
Heal over time effects can be purged / dispelled
power words / Prayer of mending can be dispelled as well
What makes them better if they can be dispelled as much as any other class?
Iâm not trying to corner you but I genuinely donât understand why you think that doesnât apply to them.
The typical holy pally arena build probably wonât get you too far, but if you go a more offensive build you might get in the ~2k range. Lots of fear/stun resistance and silence resistance/duration of silence resistance. Youâd pair well with another caster so they could benefit from the aura. Improved HoJ would be a requirement and youâd need some burst, and iâm not sure if holy shock would be enough.
Arena is gonna be different this time around, and iâm sure there will be some comps with a holy pally/hybrid pally build thatâll do well.
Side note: I remember a 2âs team on my server back in the day, it was a prot pally/prot warrior build, and they absolutely destroyed double dps comps (and weâre gonna see a ton of those). Prot pally was usually in holy gear for healing and was tanky enough from the prot talents to solo a rogue. Just a thought /shrug
Because sure it can be dispelled but itâs a lot more than a pally has.
A priest can pop mending a shield and renew before a cc hits him.
A priest can also SWD incoming cc to break it. There flash heal is also I believe the strongest in the game. Priests also have pain suppression
Druids can shift poly and lifebloom still heals if dispelled.
Shamans have tremor and grounding and earth shield along with a ranged interupt to prevent cc there fast heal is also much better than a pallys.
Pallys only heal is holy light basically, which is 2.5 seconds everytime, throw in curse of tongues and itâs almost a 4 second cast.
Pallys wonât get the hps in arenas simply because they can be chain ccâd by ANYTHING, they have sac as protection and a good pally will use it to break an incoming cc instead of just throwing it out to be dispelled. Once they break that 1 cc sac will be dispelled and he will eat ccs.
Thereâs a reason why representation of hpallys is so small compared to the other healers on priv servers and actual old TBC.
Hpal is a low tier healer in arenas for sure. Here are my reasons:
1- Close to 95% of your healing is casting an ability. Everybody freak out when they see a cast is happening and you get 200 cast interrupts.
2- when you cast, you canât move. so you canât hot and walk like a druid or priest. no mobility.
3- curse of tongue. 60% casting time increment. thatâs basically -60% healing done for you and you have no way to remove it but bubbling.
4- mass dispel. Many times the only thing you can do to be able to heal is to bubble. but thanks to the most OP spell added in BC, priest mass dispell can now remove bubble, your only hope to do something.
5- no extra functionality. Paladin neither has cool abilities like mana burn, enemy dispelling or mind control, nor has a CC like clone or entangle. Just one hoj.
6- Your blessings can be dispelled easily. Freedom, sacrfice, protection can be dispelled by many classes.
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i think youd have more success with Holy Shock dmg build and gearing for damage. we took Rsham&shockadin to 1750 2v2 on a pserv lol. u kind of hit a wall. pala feels like easily the worst healer in 2s, just not well equipped to face the fotm comps
Whats funny is they get a bit better in WOTLK but i think its because other classes just get so much better that better comps open up for them.
Turbo becomes amazing.
Beast cleave becomes amazing.
ATC comes online.
PHD comes online.
They just get much much better comps in WOTLK, they just straight suck in TBC.
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