Hint of High Elf Race

I get the point, but I’m not sure I agree.

How many people actually like Void Elves as Void Elves? Anecdotally, it doesn’t seem to be that many. They were panned by the playerbase when they first launched as a “lorelol race” (a description I tend to agree with). I’ve also noticed, and again purely anecdotal evidence, that most Void Elves I see on forums tend to have fair skin and normal hair. The ones that actually have the blueberry customizations on their characters tend to stand out as a minority. Similar experiences in-game too.

I do agree that High Elves wouldn’t take away from Blood Elves in terms of population. I certainly wouldn’t go Blue Team if they were added. That said, I don’t think the introduction of High Elves will lead to Blood Elves being written as Blood Elves.

Ultimately, Blood Elves lost a lot of their characterization with the conclusion of the BC Storyline and the restoration of the Sunwell. The recklessness? Gone, it was stolen by Void Elves. The desperation? Solved.

There’s a reason characters like Liadrin (Who might as well be a generic Human Paladin in terms of characterization) get pushed to the fore, while characters like Rommath are sidelined and presented as unreasonable when they do appear. It’s a deliberate choice.

This doesn’t effect just Blood Elves, mind you. Orcs have obviously been deliberately written in a certain way post-MoP, and frankly, the entire Horde has had Baine Bloodhoof shoved down their throats as our intended moral compass (yuck!) for ages now.

Playable High Elves could reinforce Blood Elven identity through contrast, but it would require a company willing to write Blood Elves as Blood Elves, and it really looks like Blizzard is deliberately choosing not to.

I do have to say that I disagree with this entirely. The fact that Night Elves are supposed to be everything Haranir are, but are not is a problem. It’s a problem you don’t solve by inventing some boring race that’s about to bring a couple of retcons to the story.

It’d be far more preferable to just let Night Elves be Night Elves.

By keeping Night Elves as this paradoxically underpowered and overpowered punching bag (Malfurion is practically written as a demigod, but the Night Elves are notably lacking their WCIII roster and have no real diplomatic inroads with neutrals that should be natural allies for them. We should see Mountain Giants, Faerie Dragons, deeply indexed Green Dragons, Furbolgs, etc. with the Kaldorei), and just taking their “defining traits” and plastering them onto something new, you end up doing a disservice to both.

Let me put it this way, Orcs are my favorite race in Warcraft. If Blizzard continues down the arc of “All Orcs are Thrall, and if they’re not, they are only allowed to be aggressive or militaristic in a campy, non-threatening way” and then introduced some just-invented-yesterday race that has all the traits that Orcs were supposed to have, my response wouldn’t be to race change, it’d be to unsubscribe.

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I know this is a short reply but I did read everything. I personally just think the story is at a point where they can’t fully turn the ship around. People expect the night elves to be how they are now for example and effectively redirecting them would be dissonant for a lot of night elf players who have grown to like the peace hippie way they are written.

As for the rest of your opinions here, I think you’re valid for your takes. My opinion is that more races offers them more breathing room to write each race in a way that doesn’t alienate a subset of players. And generally gives them more room to individualize each if they choose to actually write them well.

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Maybe, although I would just put forward this:

Obviously, I cannot speak for every Night Elf player, but I have spent a lot of time discussing WoW Lore on various fansites (notably MMO-Champion), and basically every Night Elf poster I’ve ever argued with wanted the WCIII Night Elves back.

Obviously Lore fanatics don’t perfectly map on to the general playerbase, but it was unanimous and pronounced enough that I developed a real sympathy for Night Elf posters over the years despite my entire schtick being a pro-Garrosh poster.

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Trust me. I’m in the camp that wishes the nelves had bite as well. But I’m glad you touched on the fact the normies are not like us fanatics lol. I think that’s an important fact too unfortunate as it is.

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In my own experience, 3 out of 4 VE players have natural skin and hair color. And even better, if you go to moon guard, many people have the TRP3 addon installed and you can see many times how they show High elf or Quel’dorei magister/hunter/knight etc. On their name plates.

Forums and in game. Because void elves are the closest thing to high elves.

Blood elves used to be the “edgy” elves and now they’re just humans with pointy ears. Void elves now are new edgy ones.

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Oh! I have some info for this!

Its all anecdotal though.

I ran tests by sitting for approximately one hour in the Stormwind Portal room taking note of any Void Elf I saw and the customizations they were using on two servers. Draenor and Wyrmrest Accord.

High Elves only come out slightly ahead in this format in both cases. Void Elves (Notably any void-esc option was counted as Void Elf excepting eye colors where Sclera were present. so Tentacles, Blue Skin tones, No Sclera eyes unless another item was present and void colored hair but only if another item was present as well.) were only a bit behind by somewhere between 5-10 members.

Void Elves are seemingly popular enough as Void Elves, and I suspect if I run this test again now I’ll find even more due to the expansion of canonical Void Elves being able to be any of our customization options. I’ve also noticed a greater interest by members of the community that were primarily only High Elf fans in Void Elves as time has gone on and people have warmed up to them a bit.

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One of the big reason I play void elf, is because they’re alliance.

Neutral races are boring and kill all the faction flavor.

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I agree with this assessment.

But not everyone is 15 years old though. The void theming is pretty strong so unless you are in your edge lord phase, it may not be your cup of tea - I know you can get rid of the tentacles and blue skin but you still randomly turn purple in combat.

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Almost literally all the edgy nonsense they tacked on post TFT blood elves was a way to make them palatable to players like Wildberry and it was never going to stick. Even BC didn’t stick by it before patches.

Dalaran high elves even had the ally warlock trainer in Wrath so that, too, wasn’t even special.

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Warlock and Paladin. Both of which should have been unique at that time to the Blood Elves. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Alliance main here, we don’t need more elves.

How about a Subrace for the Void Elves and Subrace option of Amani for the Regular Trolls.

Someone has been a naughty boy, “summoner”

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Roll blood, join the better faction