For real though. If every SC member has to be held accountable for following Jainaâs orders, so does every Horde member for following Sylvanasâs orders.
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Not every Horde member personally contributed to the fire, even less knew about it beforehand. Every Silver Covenant member, apart from those who had been on the piss the night before and called in a sicky, took part in the rounding up and detaining of a group of people in an act of collective punishment on the basis of their cultural and political affiliations.
Also, you literally go murder a dude in the middle of the street for his money on the Silver Covenantâs orders, the idea that it was just some little group in the sewers is total waffle. Jaina was walking through Dalaran wiping out elves. By the word of the dev that worked on it, that was initially a bug but they intentionally left it in because they liked it. Itâs intentional.
Thereâs a difference though. The players which compose the Horde were absolved, Baine was made to be a victim and Lorâthemar was also helping against her on the sidelines, Saurfang even became a sacrificial lamb.
We donât have any example of a SC NPC even saying that theyâre against whatâs happening during the pruge or showing any degree of remorse afterward.
Have you played the Alliance side? The quest text implies they think heâs going to steal from Dalaranâs treasury.
The fighting that occurs topside is because of resistance from the Sunreavers. Iâm not saying it was the right thing to do, but they were doing what they were told to do.
Just like Horde characters did after Sylvanas burned down Teldrassil, and then told them to go sack Kul Tiras.
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I just saw one of the Sunreavers - Brasael, I think his name was - running off in the direction of the bank to the north. No doubt heâs trying to gather whatever assets he can before he leaves.
Head him off and make sure he doesnât steal any resources from our coffers. He relinquished whatever funds he left in the bank when he and his Sunreaver kind betrayed us.
What they think is that heâs going to get his own money. They are confiscating property from, and this needs to be emphasised, innocent civilians.
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Like Brennedam, who werenât even part of the Alliance when the Horde sacks it?
You mean the Kul Tirans? The ones who invaded Durotar and spent roughly 10 years raiding and massacring the people there?
Worldâs smallest violin.
Doesnât matter. Innocent civilians are innocent civilians.
The SC and all high elves in Dalaran should have had their eyes turn green from fel exposure during Legion.
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Yeah, that bit of lore was never Blizzardâs strongest idea.
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Donât start a scorched earth war if you donât want to get your towns burnt down, I feel like thatâs really good advice in general. You can pick the game, but you have to play by the rules of the game you pick.
People are capable of extremely evil stuff under the guise of âjust following orders.â I find it realistic and disturbingly humanizing
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Would you say that if Jaina had actually destroyed Orgrimmar killing every civilian in the process?
Or if the nelves burn a city filled mostly with civilians?
If the fact that not every member of the horde helped burn Teldrassil should keep their civilians safe, then the fact that a group of militant kulâtirans attacking durotar shouldnât excuse the actions at brennadam.
The farmers in brennadam werenât attacking anyone any more than the average peon helped burn Teldrassil. If it would be seen as bad for the night elves to slaughter even those who arenât combatants, itâs not okay for the horde to attack people who arenât combatants either.
I donât think the purge was the right thing to do, I donât think the night elves should massacre every last person under the horde banner, I didnât think taraujo was okay either.
But Iâve seen people act like the horde killing whoever whenever is all good, even when itâs in retaliation to just one persons actions. Like the people who imply Teldrassil was fine because Genn stopped Sylvanas from enslaving an ally we had against the legion.
If that alone made it fine to burn every nelf, furbolg, and every last bit of wildlife inhabiting Teldrassil then I guess it would be fine for the alliance to genocide the horde now.
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Exactly.
People get way too invested in the factions. As someone who plays both, I just donât get it.
Heck, I didnât get it back in BC, when I only played Horde. Back then, I always just saw the Alliance as âthat faction I donât play asâ, not âevil that must be purgedâ. 
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Itâs kind of why I hate when faction stuff is the focus of an expac.
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Itâs always a tedious plotline. Both factions are player factions, so there canât be a clear winner. It always involves the Horde eating the villain bat, and a rebellion against an evil Warchief. Some other threat (usually Old God related) shows up later to be the real villain, etc. etc.
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No, because Theramore was a military target. Jainaâs attempt to drown Orgrimmar was for spite.
Terrible practical idea given that the night elves would not want to find themselves in a war of annihilation with the Horde. Stiffening the Hordeâs resolve would have been the only outcome.
As far as morality, I wouldnât have held it against the nelfs.
The Kul Tirans at Durotar were state forces. It wasnât some renegades. It was Kul Tiras as a whole who did it and Daelin Proudmoore is still beloved there.
The people of Kul Tiras, if anything, seem to think Daelin Proudmoore is a hero.
The Horde fought a civil war to oust the person responsible. Daelin Proudmoore is still getting statues made of him.
Genn attacked an actual ally during a literal apocalypse to defend a mythical being that no one knew anything about. We allied with Odyn at the end of that zone.
This shouldâve been what started the war imo, not some âSylvanas hates lifeâ crap.
Like, imagine if BfA hadâve been: âNow that the Legion is dealt with, we must address the fact that the Alliance opened war with us when they attacked our Warchiefâ instead of âSylvanas wants to kill people and will use Orgrimmarâs lack of defence as an excuse to trick Saurfangâ.
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Orgrimmar is not a military target?
Also, Sylvanas shouldnât have been trying to enslave anyone, and Odyn helped us throughout the zone. We also saw sylvanas making a deal with Helya while weâre stuck in helheim. Also whether youâre horde or alliance she makes no effort to free you on her way out.
So sylvanas can enslave whoever on a whim, make deals with enemies, abandoning her own people and allies to said enemy, but Genn canât stop her from enslaving someone?
Genn didnât go there with that as his goal. He went there for revenge against Sylvanas, during a time when they were supposed to be dealing with the Legion. The fact that Sylvanas was being evil at the time was coincidence.