High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

The players also kill the perpetrators of these “murders” so who you expect them to punish is beyond me. And “secrecy” is the whole point of the Dalaran sewers, and the location he feeds the Sunreaver to the shark is the same exact location the player is sent to secretly assassinate someone as well, and despite many NPC bystanders, you’re also never apprehended, so by your logic senseless murder is also allowed in Dalaran.

it’s obvious this location was used to emphasize the Silver Covenant’s need of secrecy to kill a Sunreaver in a more malicious way than needed, and that he was not just “following orders” but indulging in a senselessly violent murder to satisfy himself.

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People with psychotic tendencies enjoy acts of psychoticness.

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The comment about them being cowardly was presented as a personal opinion, not a matter of fact.

It’s nice to see that you’re more interested in slipping in a low-effort “gotcha” than you are in actually responding to the bit of my post which pointedly demonstrates some level of ignorance, on your part, as it relates to the realities of the living situations for both Blood Elves and High Elves is. :man_shrugging:

I’ve maintained, throughout this entire discussion, that whatever the Kirin Tor permits is allowed in Dalaran – and, thus far, there hasn’t been anything proffered to suggest otherwise. :man_shrugging:

Or that blizzard just kinda forgot that these sorts of things have major implications. I mean they all but abandoned the SC until Legion…

Also of note they apparently separated their ties to Dalaran somewhat then since they all but abandon the city and join the Unseen Path, while the Sunreavers are regaining their place in Dalaran.

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There’s nothing to suggest they’ve become estranged from Dalaran, at all – they’re still operating counter to the Sunreavers, even now in Shadowlands.

So you get to opine freely, but I must present peer reviewed facts in response?

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They no longer even hold their section of the city and they’ve left. We only see em in Highmountain and during Suramar. They’ve left and lost their home? Sounds estranged.

The Sunreavers are involved in a story trying to get back into the city by contrast.

As for Shadowlands, why they’re even still involved in the Tournament Grounds is a big question mark as well. Since Dalaran isn’t there anymore, and thats an Argent Crusade holding. (that goes for the Sunreavers too)

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This…

…isn’t presented as an opinion. I helped you out, by correcting your erroneous understanding of historical events, and you chose to ignore it because the actuality of events clashes with the way you’ve chosen to see the Blood Elves.

That you prefer to ignore truth, as presented by the Warcraft Chronicles, is your prerogative. :man_shrugging:

This isn’t indicative of anything, inherently. :man_shrugging:

Citation Needed.

The point is, they’re continuing to act as foils to the Sunreavers. The specifics of why either group is there are both unknown and, until we know more, unimportant.

Speaking of presenting opinion as facts.

And I mean, most of your arguing here about the purge has been you making stuff up and declaring it canon.

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Well tbf to the shadow priests, she was trolling them when they weren’t doing so hot in BFA.

Then what was the worst situation the HE’s found themselves in? Since you claimed that Blood elves have lived in luxury since their introduction, then clearly it would be easy to point out how High Elves have had it worse than Blood Elves :slightly_smiling_face:

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They’ve quite literally been presented this way from the onset, again, that this clashes with your understanding of their characterization is your issue – they literally adorn themselves in gold. :man_shrugging:

Yet again, choosing to ignore the response which demonstrated your understandings false…

I didn’t once suggest the High Elves had it better, or worse, I said the period of suffering for both groups was nearly identical – and their type of suffering was almost identical.

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In your not so detached opinion. I’d say they’ve been shown a bit more complicated, you’ve got some class divide, the struggle against the stuff from the dead scar, in BC there was the whole mess with Kael’s chosen and the rest of the citizens.

What, you declaring that my pretty obvious opinion complete with lots of flavorful language was meant to be completely factual and thus held to higher standards then the mess that falls out of your keyboard?

You’re pushing a rather odd line and trying to bully others into accepting your take on things like the fact that when a city is governed by a council the leader of that council does not have legal authority to rule on her own.

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I always felt the Sin’dorei did have it rougher, their story was one of hardship and loss imho, The High Elves that stayed with Alliance also had issues to deal with though, breaking up of families, separated from kin due to politics and circumstances, allowing two super powers to control your peoples destiny, and all that stuff.

stubborness of this magnitiude should be acknowledged.

/cheers

In game. They’re not there and are part of the Unseen Path.

It was easier for blizzard than actually changing anything. Lol

They make no sense to still be there… The Argent Crusade should have been working out of their main holding down the road, not an undefended unused tournament ground. Blizz just reused assets and what little the SC and Sunreavers do amounts to nothing anyways.

Point is Blizz forgot to ever punish them cause they had more important things they were working on.

Pretending what the SC does when given the opportunity to maliciously and harshly slaughter their former compatriots is foolish.

Especially in context to what was actually happening.

Since we know only one or two Sunreavers actually did it most of those Sunreavers are either trying to flee or defending themselves against a sudden unexpected attack by the SC…

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Fyor sure has a glutton for punishment. 3 days in a row of being proven wrong and looking like an absolute fool when it comes to lore knowledge.

They’ve got nuance, of course, but one of their most pronounced aesthetic elements is their gaudiness – to suggest that this isn’t a central element, while they’ve adorned themselves in gold and inlaid their buildings (and even their weaponry) in gold, is simply a denial of reality.

I don’t know what your first language is, but in English if something isn’t prefaced with an I-statement, then it almost certainly cannot be said to be “pretty obvious[ly] opinion”.

“I think that apples are good.”
“I believe that horses are fun.”
“I suspect that motorcycles are dangerous.”

Those are clearly opinions.

I wouldn’t speak to who had it better, or worse, but Tarrok implied that while the BE’s were out here struggling to retake their homeland and dealing with addiction… the HE’s were just sucking down manacoladas and living their best lives, safe in Dalaran.

This simply isn’t how events unfolded, as per the Warcraft Chronicle, and the period of time in which there was a general lack for access to magic was nearly identical for both groups.

  1. The fact that they’re not currently operating out of Dalaran doesn’t suggest they’ve become estranged, by any stretch of the imagination.

  2. You’re suggesting that the Silver Covenant, by adjoining themselves to the Unseen Path, must necessarily have become estranged from Dalaran – but the Farstriders, Sentinels, and Dark Rangers also attached themselves to that group.

    By merely extending your rationale to the other groups involved… doesn’t bode well for the military might of of the Blood Elves, Night Elves, or Forsaken.

That hasn’t ever rendered something in-game noncanon before, not sure why it would change now. :man_shrugging:

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That they are not operating out of Dalaran isn’t of import.

That they no longer have their holdings there is. The name of the place is even changed. Clearly something happened.

And again, my point was more that blizzard often let’s things go that should be addressed because they decide to focus on other more important things to gameplay.

No. I’m suggesting that since they no longer own their holdings in the city they have become estranged and that blizzard decided not to explain it.

But those forces still hold their positions in their home.

True.

Though again their existence there amounts to no consequence. They don’t do anything except make a portal at the end.

Sorry, the joke there was that I mained shadow priest for a long time.

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