Good point, the Devs did say that High Elfs are the overwhelmingly most popular request for an AR which would imply many people want them on Alliance.
I still don’t think we should be complaining about Belfs on Horde tho. Yah, the Devs reworked the lore to put Belfs on Horde to attract players for faction imbalance and give them a “pretty race”. It’s been a decade, it’s not changing. And I’m sure many of the Belf players are very ingrained into their faction and would not like to be uprooted. The very idea that they don’t belong on Horde just isn’t realistic at all at this point.
Although now that faction imbalance is skewed in the other direction, with Horde having more players… maybe High Elfs are a smart move on their part to re-balance it
I don’t know you were the one flaunting your understanding of business and I’m pressing x to doubt.
Right… so insert Alliance player giving a bad take on a Horde race’s lore
Where is this data?
I mean let’s be generous and say many Alliance players want High Elves. I thought Alliance players complain everyday its the underdog faction, so hardly the majority hmm?
Please don’t link people wanting the faction of Alliance High Elves to be playable, with peoples disdain of Blood Elves, thank you next.
Yes it is. Their bodies naturally absorb energy and transform them, hence the variations between Blood, Void, and High Elves, just to name a few. That’s not even counting the various Night Elves.
Their eye color changing is proof of their consumption/use of the power.
No they didn’t, and yes it did affect the Elves. Just look at Kael, the Nightbourn, and the Withered.
They are consuming it so yes it will, but just at a slower rate. True Blizzard might not go for that angle but lore wise it makes a lot more sense for it to happen.
It has everything to do with the conversation because it shows that the Elves are more compatible with the Alliance, and it’s a potential plot point for them rejoining. It would make far for sense for the Blood Elves as they are, to remain on the Horde over in Kalimdor, while the east is purely Alliance.
I’m bored, you’re doing the whole “I’m an Alliance player and in my poor take on lore for a game I don’t make, I’m going to speak against Blood Elves being Horde.”
Here I thought you were going to be interesting giving business insider knowledge what ever that means to you I’m still unsure of.
Huh, maybe it has something to do with the fact Blood Elves are the overwhelming majority of their Thalassian High Elven race, and Quel’thalas is their kingdom, their home, that they rebuilt, and that bastion of power is at the northern most top of the Eastern Kingdoms, like gee idk but I think thats what they are located and based out of the Eastern Kingdoms.
Well there’s a reason I don’t work in games. It’s a thankless job. Trust me, people come and go around there and the integrity of the story is always placed second before what they THINK will sell more. They’re only keeping High Elves away out of fear. It’s same reason why companies like Naughty Dog put political nonsense in their games before story. It’s all about the money.
Well duh, of course I’m Alliance, but my take on the lore is more accurate, so it’s not a bad take. I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about.
How about you stop cutting parts out of my statements and taking them out of context. What are you, Buzzfeed now?
You’ve been under a rock I see. As I stated, High Elves are so popular that they even came up on the Q&A for BFA. That doesn’t happen unless it’s a relevant and popular question.
They’ve been brought up for years on end and even the devs have acknowledged their massive popularity. In fact, they’re afraid of it, like you are. They know that a large chunk of Horde players would potentially bale unless they come up with some hot new races for the Horde. You’re not using common sense.
Then why are you still yapping?
Precisely why my idea of the Blood Elves having a civil war was relevant as a potential idea. Many Elves have displayed a growing discontent with both the Horde and Fel magic. The Void Elves themselves are an example. Team them up with Light worshiping Elves and Alleria’s status among her people, and you have a revolt.
I came up with an idea for Blood Elves having a Fel Blood form racial trait to replace the lazy one they have now, and this could be the story behind it. Alleria was an even greater hero than Sylvanas, so her voice carries weight among their people. That and I’m sure many Elves don’t feel right on the Horde, and nor should they given how left out they are in the lore.
Retaking taking Quel’thalas for the Alliance and banishing the demonic Elves would be a perfect way for Blood Elves to be on the other side and have plenty of reason to hate us.
Orcs, having been altered by Fel as well, would be more sympathetic to their plight and finally they’d have something in common.
They’re not consuming it nor have they been exposed to it long enough from that.
Night Elves were affected from Dark Trolls by the Well Of Eternity. The largest and most potent source of magic in the world that has ever existed.
Highborne became either high elves or Nightborne due to the Sunwell and the Nightwell… Two very powerful sources of magic. (though there is conflicting data on when the high elves truly became high elves vs. when they started going by the name)
Blood elves simply chose to change their name to honor their fallen.
Fel radiation did one thing to them. It changed their eye color green over time. A color that will slowly fade away now that the Sunwell is once again active, and full of both holy and arcane energies.
And that you included void elves is amusing.
No its proof that their eye color can be affected by ambient magics.
Has nothing to do with consumption or use. Per blizzard.
The general population of blood elves has not been affected in any way save a temporary change of eye color.
Per blizzard.
Except you’re making things up. You’re just wrong. So no it will not.
Hell if it did it would be a complete 180 from where the blood elf story went in TBC…
Which has nothing to do with what the post you quoted me from was about…
You’re opinion on Blood Elves is both inaccurate and extremely delusional I made time to comment
Why would the small population of Alliance High Elves re take Quel’thalas? LOL.
I saw you typing I was hoping you were going to come with a new style and a fresh type of flow but sadly I was disappointed again.
The lore that put Blood Elves on Horde makes sense and that seems to be the reason that you’re really mad. But for what? What does making sure BE players don’t support Alliance HE fans benefits you or anyone else who prefer Alliances small faction of High Elves?
You quote a thing that you don’t understand… Its also no longer valid.
The entire quote was him saying that at that time they had no direct plans to release High Elves for the Alliance.
With the customization options being added to both Blood and Void Elves blizzard has specifically stated that they are meant to give that option to both sides.
Well it is how it works, and you just proved it with your own words lol.
Kael changed them to Blood Elves in name at first, but when they started drawing Fel energy, they immediately started showing signs of change, hence the eyes. They’ve been absorbing it for 13 years and they’re still absorbing it now. You don’t think there’ll be any consequences.
I’m sure some would have gotten off the Fel, and they’re exactly the ones to rejoin the Alliance through a revolt. Void Elves have even talked about seeking to rejoin Quel’thalas with the Alliance again. So it’s on their minds.
No it isn’t, and we’ve already seen Blood Elves transform into monsters because of it. The only reason Fel Blood did so sooner was because they gorged on it, but the same thing could very well be happening slowly over time to the Blood Elves.
No it isn’t, stop putting words in their mouths. They were clearly affected by it just as all examples of Elves have been. Even if they did say that, it’s ridiculous and makes no sense with the lore.
No, most of what I’m saying is based on the actual lore, except I’m more consistent than they are. The parts I’m making up are merely ideas I’m sharing and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Read it again…
Prove it.
You didn’t read what wrote… Read it again.
And yeah it makes so much sense that the Blood Elves have had almost no story or involvement since TBC, aside from minor cameos. I’m sure that has nothing to do with them not fitting into the faction they’re on…
That last part isn’t proper English and I have no idea what it means. Translate please.
Thank you for quoting Ion Hazzikostas’ half hearted answer. Even he knew it made no sense when he said it. Take a look at the dislikes on that vid.
Now, assuming he was telling the truth I know Call won’t see this because he got fed up with me doing things like this, but I’ll chime in here for the benefit of the thread.
What he’s talking about does not prove what he says it does. There’s a spot in Silvermoon with a fel crystal and a blood elf near it (now there’s also a nightborne hanging out there too) The blood elf has an animation cycle that goes between a bookshelf and the crystal, and when at the crystal it plays a channel animation with a beam to the crystal. There is no dialogue, there is no spell actually being cast. It could be feeding, it could be something to do maintaining the city. There’s no indication of what is actually happening.
According to World of Warcraft and the novels they did. Because you can observe the Magisters draining fel in Dtormwind, read about Liadrin draining a fel crystal and about how they were being distributed and you can do the quests in Allerian Hold where they say they avoided draining magic from demons by using stored arcane relics.
Just because a Q&A answer says it’s because of radiation doesn’t erase all of the in game and in canon evidence of them doing it.
Some Blood Elves didn’t do it, but as a race they totally did. The animals in the starting zone are literally being corrupted by fel energy and the starting quest givers before changing the racial was, “Hey go drain mana from them.”
What an awful gotcha moment, you missed. Anyways lol, I’m dyslexic so I get it but I also don’t make such poor arguments I feign someone’s inability to speak properly.
I thought you can’t stand to play Horde and don’t? How would you know Blood Elf story? I mean you obviously don’t as is anyways but like current BE story how would you know?
Again, thank you for quoting Ion Hazzikostas’ halfhearted response in the Q&A. Even he looked nervous while saying it because he knew how ridiculous it is to have placed Elves on the Horde and that his reply would generate massive flack. Take a look at the chunk of dislikes on that vid. The whole point of High Elves is NOT being on the Horde.
Still waiting for a counter. Smirks and smug attempts at humor won’t cover up for you lack of knowledge.
That’s a stupid question. I obviously played the Blood Elf story because I’m an Elf fan. Thirteen years of my character wasted on the Horde as an alt instead of my main only added to my desire for High Elves, as they would have relevance on the Alliance. The Horde may be a zoo, but we’re the ones kept in this cage to give them a pretty race instead of having a good story.
They never drew fell energy. It was passive radiation that changed their eye color. This did not change them in any other way.
There is no evidence to support that they still have the Fel crystals. That zone hasn’t been updated visually in any regard.
Blizzard has a poor record of actually updating the world.
I’m sure many have gotten their eyes color to change. I’m also sure that since the very basis of your hypothesis is wrong that what you’re suggesting is not happening.
Their eyes will lose the green over time from the Sunwell being holy and arcane. So blue and yellow eyes would become prevalent.
Since the green eye color was the only actual change to them, there is no reason that they’d suddenly have a change of heart.
The Blood Elves have been fighting alongside their allies for 13 ish years. They wont abandon them so easily.
Also this doesn’t really matter to the topic we’re discussing.
The Blood Elves who joined Kael’thas in Outland took the Fel into themselves and became Felblood.
The ones who joined the Horde were only affected by ambient fel radiation and never consumed nor took the fel into themselves.
Drop it. You’re wrong.
You cannot just claim that facts aren’t true. Blizzard the ones who make the game already confirmed this information.
Its blizzard so if they say its thing its a thing.
also it works perfectly with the lore…since thats the lore.
You’re wrong my friend. You should move on.
Can you prove it? Like literally you admit Blizzard said it and you don’t agree in some of your responses to me… so…
omg hes referring to that?
These people want so bad to be right about something they’re very wrong about…
Or you can just let him ask. Won’t cost you nothing.
A couple Blood Elves doesn’t make the entire group do this.
You’re wrong. Let it go.
Yes. The Devs are absolutely the worst place to get information. Clearly. They only make the game, lore, and everything to do with it.
Since night elves aren’t getting nothing highborne related i’ll probably play void elf next expansion. If we can’t have magic elf fantasy with night elves, void elves are the only chance for alliance to have this thematic expanded. I want elegant hairstyles, natural hair colors, tentacle toggle, arcane tattoos and jewelries for void elves.