Cause:
The conflict began when it was discovered that Kirin Tor resources had been used to aid the Horde’s theft of the Divine Bell… It transpired that, while not having been directly involved in the theft himself, Aethas had been aware of it and chose to remain silent.
Response:
It saw elements of the Kirin Tor order, along with the Silver Covenant and forces of Stormwind, attempt to purge the blood elven Sunreavers faction from the city of Dalaran.
I never said it was a nice thing or a noble cause, but the two instances in question are not the same in the slightest.
I do not understand the point of it.
It literally was “You’re not arguing what I thought you were arguing. I won’t admit that I strawmanned you, let me call you a troll instead!”
It actually would be considered a form of ethnic cleansing. Keep in mind, various Caucasian groups have conducted it in the name of similar matters. Ethnic cleansing does not necessarily need to involve different races, it can involve different groups, which includes religious, and/or political one.
Such as the protestants and catholics warring with each other in England at one point/
Or was it christians?
Kirela, ethnic cleansing is a matter of group not ethnicity despite what the title may seem.
Guzzle is correct that the purge of dalaran involved ethnic cleansing of a group of people who had ties to Dalaran. This is why it caused astir for alliance players back when it occurred. The faction hates being painted badly, and to be honest, when I was on my gnome warrior at the time (don’t ask), I felt grimly uncomfortable since itsnot something my character would have involved himself in.
She wasn’t trying to homogenize Dalaran though. That’s what Hitler was trying to do. Different groups got together to kick the Sunreavers out because of their traitorous acts.
I think the ethnic cleansing comment was an attempt to paint it in a certain light, which it wasn’t.
Kirela, it does not matter the reasons involving it. Ethnic cleansing is simply the mass removal/killing/expulsing of an unwanted group be it religious, political, and/or racial.
When you play Horde, you see the dark side of what is done, which is violence against all blood elves including civilians.
In the alliance, you deal with those who fight back, though at one point you do jump a guy trying to get his stuff out of the bank before it happens.
It was indeed a form of ethnic cleansing at the time.
Blizzard stated it was meant to be an event that was grey. The Horde see something really bad.
The alliance see themselves as dealing with matters peacefully through apprehension.
We’re in here discussing playable High Elves, whether you’re in favor of them or not.
You’re spouting off about how the Silver Covenant isn’t very relevant to the narrative, while simultaneously stating that how relevant they are or aren’t is a non-factor regarding their plausibility as a playable race.
Is that not, by definition, “unrelated, entirely irrelevant commentary”? It’s a point of discussion that, even according to point-maker, doesn’t actually factor into the equation.
The point isn’t to stifle his commentary, it is to illustrate that according to his own definition of what is required for a group to become playable (“Rule of Cool”), his entire line of thought is irrelevant to either side of the discussion.
If you’re against playable High Elves, the relevancy of the Silver Covenant to the broader narrative is irrelevant; and if you’re for playable High Elves, the relevancy of the Silver Covenant to the broader narrative is irrelevant.
Also, due note, a persons comment or assertion can be trolling without the person being a general troll – I didn’t once suggest Broflake was a troll, but rather that his assertion(s) about the Silver Covenant were tantamount to trolling.
I can write any/all future responses with an Australian accent, if that’ll help you be able to actually read them thoroughly in the future?
If you admit that how relevant they are isn’t a factor in whether or not Blizzard introduces them as a playable group, then it isn’t really relevant at all – especially when the thread is titled, “High Elf Allied Race Megathread” and not “High Elf Narrative Value Megathread”.
You’re in here derailing the thread because you’re too proud to admit you made an error and strawmanned me. That is what you’re here doing. Discuss things within the context and if you can’t, that is no one’s issue but your own. Do not be a hypocrite please. Its tiresome
Why would I admit to something foran argument I never made? Bugger off.
