To be fair the statement that Pandaren were a mistake came from a dev after he had left Blizzard, the company itself doesn’t have an official stance towards them
The problem with Pandaren isn’t just that they’re neutral, it’s that it makes little sense for them to pick sides. Especially now that the Horde is supposedly going to mellow out, why don’t the Pandaren all go home together? What’s keeping them loyal to the faction they chose?
It’s that problem that makes them difficult, if not impossible to implement into the current story. Writing lore for Horde/Alliance Pandaren is difficult to do in a believable way. It doesn’t help that they’re the least played core race too, giving Blizz more incentive to ignore them
Not according to Rise of the Horde or Chronicles. They drank the demon blood in the lead-up to the sacking of Shattrath. Gul’dan called a massive meeting of the entire Horde and then gave it first to Grom who then also let his entire Clan drink it.
According to Chronicles almost every single orc there drank, the only ones who didn’t by name were Durotan, Orgrim Doomhammer, the Frostwolves and presumably the Mag’har.
They’re not, because Blood elves have never been what we’ve asked for, but thanks for proving my first point right.
Sorry, have we not seen High Elves as part of the Alliance since essentially vanilla?
Do High elves continue to refer to themselves as Blood Elves? Are there not multiple quests and NPCs that state otherwise?
I don’t know how you believe that in-game interactions constitute speculation, but continuing to pretend all High Elves are Blood elves and High elves addition to the Alliance will destroy the Horde and the game isn’t.
Uh nope, but nice try. Blood elves are High elves yeah, but not all High elves are Blood elves, Blizzard has shown you this, I’m sorry you choose to ignore it for the spite of denying a player request.
And please don’t pretend it’s anything but just denying a player request.
Yep. Blood Elves are only called Blood Elves for namesake, to honour the fallen throughout the war against the Scourge. It has nothing to do with their eyes, or race. This is referenced in books, quests, dialog and multiple other sources. This is a non-negotiable fact. Period.
It may not be shown in-game, but lorewise there could be blue-eyed / blue-eyed & tattoo’d ‘Blood Elf’ people roaming Quel’Thalas.
How many times are people going to link up an old post of mine? Maybe I should start flagging everytime someone links that old post for spam, since all people are doing is spamming it now.
Again, Blood Elves are only called Blood Elves for namesake, to honour the fallen throughout the war against the Scourge. It has nothing to do with their eyes, or race. This is referenced in books, quests, dialog and multiple other sources.
This is a non-negotiable fact. Period.
It does not matter whether “Blood elves are High elves yeah, but not all High elves are Blood elves” that point still holds in absolute truth.
It may not be shown in-game, but lorewise there could be blue-eyed / blue-eyed & tattoo’d ‘Blood Elf’ people roaming Quel’Thalas.
If anything you’re wanting a Megathread to request for Blood Elves to be made a Neutral race with blue-eyed custom options and depending what faction choice you make, for it to reflect the culture & background from there hence forward.
Well the Alliance High Elves don’t go by the name Blood Elves. The request is for a particular group of Thalassian elves that have been loyal to the Alliance and hate the Horde
Are you pretending you haven’t already been flagging?
And “that old post of yours” proves a valid point of your heavy spite and bias for the topic and is generall on-topic. But go off.
It does, because political differences matter, we’ve already seen this with Pandaren and Void elves, who were literally Blood elves on the Horde until they became Voided, and now serve the Alliance because they’ve “never cared for the horde” see how political differences matter and can constitute an entire race to be playable?
Your hard “Blood elves are High elves” fact is well and dandy, but we want the High elves that are still around and in-fact, not Blood elves.
Want me to actually start flagging every post linking to that one post? Considering it is actually spamming.
Dude, I said it many times, I don’t remember that post. But no, people just don’t want to listen, because they just want to use it against me everytime when they’re knowing they’re losing an actual argument.
We have already discussed this, no one is asking the Blood elves that are currently and firmly within the Horde ranks to become a neutral faction.
This group has largely been asking for the nuanced group(s) that are alliance sympathetic/ loyal. Having access to those groups whom have a different recent story than the main group of thalassians (the Blood elves)
Scenario for this, similar to the Mag’har, various groups to make one whole group. It’s not a different race, but a group from the thalassians pledged to aid the alliance through a few adventurers. They can make a scenario to make this happen.
That’s cool and all, but I am still waiting on that quote Mowachassa.
Well…metaphorically punch your old self in the face and be reborn from your self made cocoon of self righteous rage.
Yeah…no…it doesn’t work that way. One is in a state of being playable, the other is not. They are both heralded as the same race, and as such, you can’t deny someone because of something that you want that isn’t available or never will be.
Let alone, for all the statements of “we want the high elves loyal to the alliance”, that important distinction suddenly disappears when blue eyes are brought up.
This severely undermines the argument of lore, if the eye color is what you feel is distinctive, and blood elf models already have blue eyes in the NPC’s. So shouldn’t you be complaining about this matter?
How about fogsail humans using kul tiran and SW human models?
Based on that logic, someone should complain they’ll never get humans on the horde because of these models being used unfairly by the alliance, and that is certainly a greater distinction than eye color which you don’t see unless you zoom in.
You can disagree with it, but it is still true, and something the devs state through lore and in interviews.
Wait, he has? Lmao, this is the most funniest thing I have ever read.
Talking about High Elves =/= Going Off-Topic
Oh right, Anti-Helfers aren’t allowed to disagree against the idea of adding a race already playable on Horde to making them also playable on Alliance. Thanks for proving my point.
Yeah, you’re going to need something in the way of a citation for that part…since they were researching the Void specifically to defend the Blood Elves, the Sunwell, and Silvermoon. They were banished for it…they didn’t say “yeah, we don’t like them, we’re out.”
